Workplace Shooter - Read Comments on Article

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    The usual newspaper "assault" rifle lead. Comments about workplace carry from readers.

    Gunman opens fire at North Side power company - STLtoday.com

    Gunman opens fire at North Side power company
    By Kim Bell
    ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
    01/07/2010

    UPDATED, 7:40 a.m. Thursday

    ST. LOUIS -- A gunman armed with an assault rifle stormed a power company this morning in north St. Louis, shooting at least three people. Some employees at the business ran to the rooftop to escape the gunfire. At least one man barricaded himself in a maintenance room.

    The gunman was believed to be still in the building as of 7 a.m. and details provided by police spokeswoman Schron Jackson were sketchy. But reports by dispatchers said that the company was ABB Power, at 4350 Semple Avenue.

    Police had a staging area at Bircher and Semple.

    About 6:30 a.m. today, police got a call from a woman, very upset, who said that someone came in to the east side of the building and started shooting. "They are still shooting," a dispatcher told police officers rushing to the scene at 6:34 a.m.

    The scene was so chaotic that even the descriptions of the gunman were confusing to police. At first, a witness described the gunman only as a black man, about 5-foot-8 or 5-foot-9, wearing a tan coat and carrying a semiautomatic weapon. Later, a company supervisor called police to give the name of a disgruntled worker who had possibly been recently fired. That worker was a white man.

    Another employee on the phone with police said multiple shots were being fired at the east annex of the building. One man was shot in the leg at the east annex.

    One caller and other employees were on the roof while talking to police.

    "The subject is now outside still shooting," a dispatcher said.

    Minutes later, police were tracking a black SUV with its headlights off heading east from Semple and Bircher. But the conversation on the police radio was somewhat chaotic. A police supervisor was trying to determine whether the SUV was connected in some way, or if shots were still being fired inside the building.

    At 6:45 a.m., that was soon cleared up though when an employee on a rear lot told police over the phone that he was looking at the gunman right then, and that the gunman was still shooting.

    Police were told he carried a handgun, a rifle and an ammunition belt.

    Ambulances were on their way, but police warned it was a "hot zone" because the shooter hadn't been captured yet.

    At 7:15 a.m., one victim hiding in a supervisor's office at the plant called police to say he had been shot in the stomach, leg and arm and was afraid to come out because he didn't know where the gunman wasa. He said he was with another shooting victim, a man who was neither conscious nor breathing.

    The plant on Semple makes transformers for an international power company. A company spokesman could not immediately be reached to comment. Employees were being escorted by police onto a Metro bus but weren't being allowed to leave the scene.


    This is a breaking story. Check back to STLtoday.com for updates.


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    Hate that this is happening, a lot of pro-carry comments.

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    KMOV update 8:33

    St. Louis police say three people have been shot at the ABB building in the 4300 block of Semple. The business is on lockdown. There are conflicting reports that the shooter may be in the building. Police are closing down exit ramps and roadways near the scene
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    So not good
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldshellback View Post
    So not good
    With every one of these increasingly frequent stories, I become more concerned that our stupified public will start to believe the solution is to criminalize gun ownership in America.

    May we never see the day when the only people who have firearms are the BGs.

    Also, the story drives home why I carry in the office every day. You never know when you will need it. Always carry, always conceal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guvn3r View Post
    With every one of these increasingly frequent stories, I become more concerned that our stupified public will start to believe the solution is to criminalize gun ownership in America.

    May we never see the day when the only people who have firearms are the BGs.

    Also, the story drives home why I carry in the office every day. You never know when you will need it. Always carry, always conceal.
    There are several comments on the local news website regarding stricter laws, and making fun of CCers, basiclly saying that if a trained LEO can't stop this guy how can someone with CC permit, goes to show the lack of knowldege about conceal carry.

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    prayers go out for the injured and their families

    praying now for the officers going in,

    watching it live on fox web site
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    fire department just announced 1 dead 4 injured

    also saying that shooter may have got away from building in his pickup
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    This is horrible in all aspects... for the victims and their families, to the impact it makes on the gun-rights movement.

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    8 injured, 3 dead....shooter is said now to be among the dead
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    I am waiting to hear from Grady. I believe he lives in St. Louis. It will be good to get his insights.

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    The shooter is confirmed one of the dead. Now three dead, two in critical, and two in serious condition. They are getting ready to do a press conference soon, will update when more info provided...

    I am about 20mins south of STL, have driven by this company thousands of times, right beside I-70, so close that they had the interstate shut down for folks safety. They said the man lived in Webster Groves, have spoken with his wife, fellow employees and so on...

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    Brady Bunch will be all over this. It is a terrible thing for everyone involved, especially for the families of the victims. Should be justification for employers to allow CC but will undoubtedly spun the other way
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    Quote Originally Posted by shooterX View Post
    There are several comments on the local news website regarding stricter laws, and making fun of CCers, basiclly saying that if a trained LEO can't stop this guy how can someone with CC permit, goes to show the lack of knowldege about conceal carry.
    These people should be happy to know that I got my permit in order to protect myself and my loved ones. People like the ones making this statement are free to wait for the government to send a man to protect them.

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    Sounds like the police were a little confused about the situation. a employee with a ccw would have simplified it for them.
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