Good - Texas Convictions of CHL Holders as a Percentage of Totals.

Good - Texas Convictions of CHL Holders as a Percentage of Totals.

This is a discussion on Good - Texas Convictions of CHL Holders as a Percentage of Totals. within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; I came across these Texas conviction totals (link below) of a 12 year period, 1996 - 2007 of convictions of TX CHL holders as a ...

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    Good - Texas Convictions of CHL Holders as a Percentage of Totals.

    I came across these Texas conviction totals (link below) of a 12 year period, 1996 - 2007 of convictions of TX CHL holders as a percentage of total TX convictions.

    I think as a group, these numbers reflect CHL holders as a pretty good group of people. No matter what large group of people you disect, there will always be a few bad apples, some groups may even contain several bushels of bad apples, whether they be realtors, plumbers, LEOs, doctors, teachers, pro athletes, bartenders, Hollywood actors, etc.

    In recent years, 1 in every 1800 Texas CHL holders was convicted of a crime, and of all the 61,000 convicted felons in 2007, 2.6 tenths of 1 percent (.26%) were CHL holders, or 5 CHL holders for every 2,000 convictions. One would be hard pressed to find any other large group of people, professional, ethnic, organizational, or otherwise, that could hold a candle to these law-abiding numbers.

    Note the total number of annual convictions (crime) from 1996 to 2007 almost doubled. Also CHL holders consistently getting better year by year from a 1 in 742 convictions, to as low as 1 in 2800 convictions. From the link below, you can view by year the detailed category of convictions that comprise the totals.

    Just a little reinforcement to the argument that it's not the armed CHL holder that the public needs to be concerned with (odds are, they're the good guy), but rather it's the armed BG that will ignore signs & laws (that's what makes them BG's) that they need to focus their concerns & paranoia towards.

    Texas DPS - Conviction Rates Reports

    Heading Definitions:

    Convictions = Total number of Texas convictions for that year.
    CHLC = Total number of convictions of Texas CHL holders.
    AAP = The number of CHL convictions as a percental of total convictions.
    Active CHL's = The total number of active Texas CHL holders for that year.
    PCC = Convicted CHL holders as a percentage of total active CHL holders.
    1HM = A ratio of 1 convited CHL holder for every XXX active CHL holders.

    2007 - Convictions = 61,260 / CHLC = 160 / AAP = .2612% / Active CHL's = 288,909 / PCC = .0554% / 1HM = 1 in 1,806

    2006 - Convictions = 61,539 / CHLC = 144 / AAP = .2340% / Active CHL's = 258,162 / PCC = .0558% / 1HM = 1 in 1,793

    2005 - Convictions = 60,873 / CHLC = 154 / AAP = .2530% / Active CHL's = 248,874 / PCC = .0619% / 1HM = 1 in 1,616

    2004 - Convictions = 63,715 / CHLC = 105 / AAP = .1648% / Active CHL's = 239,940 / PCC = .0438% / 1HM = 1 in 2,285

    2003 - Convictions = 59,770 / CHLC = 85 / AAP = .1422% / Active CHL's = 239,863 / PCC = .0354% / 1HM = 1 in 2,822

    2002 - Convictions = 55,094 / CHLC = 88 / AAP = .1597% / Active CHL's = 224,172 / PCC = .0393% / 1HM = 1 in 2,547

    2001 - Convictions = 40,624 / CHLC = 99 / AAP = .2437% / Active CHL's = 218,670 / PCC = .0453% / 1HM = 1 in 2,208

    2000 - Convictions = 40,104 / CHLC = 109 / AAP = .2718% / Active CHL's = 215,836 / PCC = .0505% / 1HM = 1 in 1,980

    1999 - Convictions = 37,443 / CHLC = 142 / AAP = .3792% / Active CHL's = 203,878 / PCC = .0696% / 1HM = 1 in 1,435

    1998 - Convictions = 34,534 / CHLC = 142 / AAP = .4112% / Active CHL's = 183,078 / PCC = .0776% / 1HM = 1 in 1,289

    1997 - Convictions = 35,562 / CHLC = 163 / AAP = .4584% / Active CHL's = 162,597 / PCC = .1002% / 1HM = 1 in 997

    1996 - Convictions = 33,514 / CHLC = 153 / AAP = .4565% / Active CHL's = 113,640 / PCC = .1346% / 1HM = 1 in 742

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    Total Convictions = 584,032 / CHLC = 1,544 / AAP = 0.2644%

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    Without showing percentage of non CHL holders that were convicted from the general population the data doesn't really say what you want it to.
    I tend to believe we are a trustworthy group but the data listed doesn't show we are any better than the general population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOF View Post
    Without showing percentage of non CHL holders that were convicted from the general population the data doesn't really say what you want it to.
    I tend to believe we are a trustworthy group but the data listed doesn't show we are any better than the general population.
    Working with the data for the year 2007:

    Conviction rate for CHL holders- 1 in 1,806.
    Conviction rate for general public (less CHL holders)- 1 in 406.

    It appears to me to be about 4.5 times as great in the general public.


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    No surprise here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rottkeeper View Post
    No surprise here.
    +1. That's too much like math homework...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rottkeeper View Post
    No surprise here.
    Yep.

    As well this same data with math has been posted several times before as through the years, most recently last summer.

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    Keep in mind that there are also so notable differences in what the convictions are for. If you go through the information carefully, you can see that quite a few convictions are for things that do not affect the non-chl holder; e.g., 51 violations; violations of 30.06. The point, if you take out of the numbers the gun specific infractions which apply only to the permitted, the percentages look even better for the CHL crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P7fanatic View Post
    Working with the data for the year 2007:

    Conviction rate for CHL holders- 1 in 1,806.
    Conviction rate for general public (less CHL holders)- 1 in 406.

    It appears to me to be about 4.5 times as great in the general public.



    Well there you go TOF^^^^^^^^

    Its very similar in Michigan,, Its kind of like an old saying"trust a person with small things" (theyre honest and law abiding), and you can trust them with great things,( Carrying Concealed)BIG RESPONSIBILITY!



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    +1. That's too much like math homework...
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