FBI finds no terrorism link to Virginia man with weapons cache in N.J. motel room
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January 26th, 2010 01:32 PM
NJ also bans hollow points... I wonder if that was taken into account when they came up with the list of charges.
January 26th, 2010 01:50 PM
Are you kiddin me....? This guy has all this heavy artillery, body armour, police scanner and all the necessary ammo along with maps and a Arabic Head Scarf. I also read some place on AOL that he had islamic reading materials.
And he is not considered a terristic threat.
"You Can Fool Some Of The People Some Of The Time, But You Can't Fool All Of The People All Of The Time"........
And yet now the 37mm Granade Launcher is being reffered to as a Flare Gun and some maybe water guns too............
Last edited by xXxplosive; January 26th, 2010 at 04:14 PM.
January 26th, 2010 07:14 PM
Last I checked TSA is part of the Feds. Thats my point, one hand doesn't know there is even another hand. Cash, one way, no checked bags, ....
Originally Posted by KralBlbec
January 26th, 2010 10:18 PM
I agree with the last few posters. I highly doubt the FBI, despite their myriad resources, have thoroughly vetted this guy enough to say definitively there is "no link" to terrorism. It's a knee-jerk statement meant to mollify the public, and it will surely blow up in the FBI's face if this guy does turn out to have links to AQ, Hezbollah, or any other group.
January 26th, 2010 10:42 PM
Nothing to see here folks, move along.
Originally Posted by xXxplosive
Just another isolated incident.
A potential "man caused disaster" headed off.
January 26th, 2010 10:46 PM
Maps? Maps of what?
night scope, maps and a police scanner
January 26th, 2010 10:48 PM
Well ... no politics here folks.... just move along... we have it all in hand, no need to look, we'll keep your interest in mind.... just move along....... this is none of your business folks... just keep moving along.
Our Founding Fathers knew there was a good reason for transparency in Govt.
January 26th, 2010 11:05 PM
It is not too difficult to legally purchase an actual grenade launcher with the correct tax stamp. I fondled one at the local class 3 shop and recall they run close to $3000.
Originally Posted by xXxplosive
The actual grenades, however, are illegal. You are right, it is just a glorified flare launcher.
I wonder if this guy was dishonorably discharged. I assume deserting from the Navy for 8 years would get you a dishonorable discharge...? Assuming that is true, he is prohibited from possessing firearms by federal law.
"a reminder that no law can replace personal responsibility" - Bill Clinton 2010.
January 27th, 2010 01:19 AM
What bothers me most about this is the obliterated serial numbers, the maps of a local military facility and an out of state community.
As pro-private ownership of weapons as I am, obliterated serial numbers raise a red flag with me.
The map of a local military facility strikes me as illuminative. The several times I've been aboard military establishments as a civilian I've just stopped at the main gate information center and asked for a map and directions.
A keffiyeh? Sure thing; I quit wearing a fedora for a keffiyeh some time ago. (Please note satiric tone in comment.)
The map of the 'out of state community' also raises my curiosity. Is this possibly a place of refuge? Some where to seek haven after some other event, perhaps at the military facility? Or could it be some community of people as a target?
The FBI did put a wriggle room clause: "However, the matter is still under investigation and these should only be considered preliminary findings." Yeah.
The El Al counter at Los Angeles Int'l airport was shot up and a couple people killed several years ago. It was a single man acting on his own as far as anyone could tell. Between that and the Ft. Hood incident I'm wondering if actions require more than one person and an obvious link to Al Qeida to be a terrorist incident?
Presumably, things will become clearer as time goes on.
January 27th, 2010 01:56 AM
No terrorism link? That guy was probably trying to go after Fort Dix like the other 6 radical Islamists they caught in 2007. I mean, why would we go all the way to New Jersey? It seems close to where he was located.
Well I'm glad they caught this guy. +1 to attentive clerks phoning in tips!
January 27th, 2010 05:41 AM
NJ isn't immune, of course. Simply due to the heavier statutes, it wouldn't surprise me if there were heavier demand for off-market items.
Originally Posted by xXxplosive
Hm. Obliterated serials on some weapons; heavy calibers; multiple weapons and ammo in a motel room; fleeing from police contact and arrest; wearing a vest; concealing a heavy-cal rifle. Almost certainly, he was out to commit some bad acts. The trick is to find who he's connected to, if anyone. Might simply be a guppie in the larger sea of crime, in NJ. Who's to say, yet.
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January 27th, 2010 08:54 PM
They're not talking about it anymore here.........seems if it has any kind of terroristic overtones, it's being denied and hushed up.
Obviously orders from Barry.............
January 27th, 2010 09:03 PM
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