''He went in for a cash withdrawal, but instead got a lead deposit

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    Thumbs up ''He went in for a cash withdrawal, but instead got a lead deposit

    Matthew Leon Felder, cops say, started his afternoon trying to rob an Allapattah corner store.

    He ended it shot in the chest -- and hanging from a fence by his shoelace.

    The armed 19-year-old would-be robber walked into a market at 3385 NW 22nd Ave. on Thursday afternoon, Miami police said. But the manager, Pasem Yousef Salameh, and another employee, Roberto Pagan, were both armed. A firefight ensued.

    Outgunned, Felder ran, jumping a fence into a backyard before emerging on the sidewalk a half a block away.

    The two store employees were still chasing him, Miami police said. More gunfire ensued. He was shot in the chest. Wounded, Felder jumped another fence but a shoelace got stuck and he fell. He dangled from the fence -- until a police officer removed him from his shoe so paramedics could treat him.

    ''He went in for a cash withdrawal, but instead got a lead deposit,'' Miami Detective Delrish Moss said.

    Felder is expected to survive.

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    Thanks for posting the story Miggy.

    19 years old and already off to a great start in life doing armed robbery on innocent people with a deadly weapon.

    I wonder why they don't try just leaving them dangling from the fences by their shoe laces?
    Nothing else has worked as a deterrent thus far.

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    That statement from the detective is priceless!
    Press the fight!

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    The only aspect that made me sit up a bit was -
    The two store employees were still chasing him, Miami police said. More gunfire ensued.
    - how does that part sit legally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by P95Carry
    The only aspect that made me sit up a bit was - - how does that part sit legally?

    You're reading my mind, Chris.??????
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    My feel: It was a righteous shooting. Otherwise it would have not been placed in the backpages of the second section of the paper next to the jacuzzi ads. In the Miami Herald usually means no charges against the citizens will be forthcoming and they cannot use the case as "Yet another reason why guns should only be for the police or the military only. Ban the Second Amendment now." excuse. Both citizens are minorities so the Herald cannot ramble about poor minorities starving and forced to a life of crime only to end up shot by a big white bubba who was wearing a KKK robe 3 minutes before.
    The statement by the detective also gives me the feeling that it was a "good shooting" otherwise he would have been reserved and the famous line "The incident is under investigation and the DA will decide if charges are appropiate."
    We'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miggy
    Outgunned, Felder ran, jumping a fence into a backyard before emerging on the sidewalk a half a block away.

    The two store employees were still chasing him, Miami police said.
    Wow, I didn't think that a chase was legal anyplace. The rest of the article sure makes it sound legal though. Let us know if you see any followup.
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    Chasing them down and trading shots forth & back.

    You could not do that in Pennsylvania. That's for sure.

    Not really all that bright of a thing to attempt anyway.
    The reasoning for this is that once the immediate deadly threat is over & done with then "your person" is no longer in deadly danger.

    In Pa...as soon as the BG took off then it would be call the 911/LEOs time.

    Also: No matter how accomplished you are...why risk a bullet over any amount of cash?

    You can always make more money but you cannot grow new internal organs.

    Science is working on it but, that can't be done yet.

    My family needs to have me here and healthy much too badly for me to do a fast exit from Planet Earth over some money.

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    The way this is described would not fly in Texas either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter
    19 years old and already off to a great start in life doing armed robbery on innocent people with a deadly weapon.
    Under Florida Statues, Section 775.087, our 19 year old would be robber will get a minimum mandatory sentence of 20 years, since he discharged a firearm in the commission of a felony.

    He picked a bad state in which to be a bad guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oilman
    The way this is described
    Remember, it is a JOURNALIST who wrote it.

    I'll keep an eye on this event.
    You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
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    well, i see things haven't changed much down there.

    that was one thing about living in miami, there was always something going on somewhere.

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    Maybe they weren't chases him, but just getting better cover.
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    There has been some case law here in Florida where "The heat of the moment" allowed the chase to continue. The DA in this county decided that a victim that was fired at and wounded by a suspect was acting in the scope of self defense when he chased and wounded the BG holding him for police.

    I am not sure I would have chased any one after they left but more power to these guys.

    I hope the victims do ok in this case.
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    thats why i love this state!
    we will not tolerate any crime or life threatning from any bg.

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