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This is a discussion on Local Cop Advocates Shooting Law Abiding Citizens - Merged 2x within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by Rob P. The problem isn't that he has rights to say what he wants to as a private person. Or that we ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob P. View Post
    The problem isn't that he has rights to say what he wants to as a private person. Or that we do or don't have the whole conversation and/or context.

    THE PROBLEM is that by the comments posted, it appears that this detective has an attitude and that he believes that HE is entitled to be above the law while preventing others from exercising their rights upon threat of death.

    He is either making these comments out of glee that he is LEO and citizens who exercise their rights are subject to his whims regardless of what the law says; or, that the comments reflect his intent to eventually kill someone. Either way, his attitude shows that he does not belong wearing a badge. Even an apology will not cleanse his attitude or demeanor. Only future actions can do that. The question is: Can the dept and the citizens risk it?
    But that is not what was said. He did not say he was going to shoot people for carrying a gun. He was pointing out the great possibility that they would get shot by the police or thugs stealing their unloaded guns.
    Was he out of line? yes, he was. But I do think the whole thing was taken out of context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    But that is not what was said. He did not say he was going to shoot people for carrying a gun. He was pointing out the great possibility that they would get shot by the police or thugs stealing their unloaded guns.
    Was he out of line? yes, he was. But I do think the whole thing was taken out of context.

    But he did say his buddy should have taken out his AR and proned the guy out for exercising a legal right. And can an OC'er actually make a furtive movement for his gun? Can someone with that attitude make a good judgement call between furtive and nervous? Particularly if he has predetermined his plan of attack so to speak. And will most of the people reading this even see what furtive means? If he keeps his job I hope this wakes him up to how ridiculous an idea this was.


    FURTIVE MOVEMENTS -- "Furtive" means secretive or concealing, and the law requires a totality of circumstances here. The movement cannot possibly be construed as an innocent gesture (looking both ways before crossing the street). Nervousness alone is not sufficient as the law recognizes the right of people to be nervous or fearful around police. The movement cannot also be possibly the sign of a mental condition. There must be something secretive given the time, setting, weather, and audience. It would be best if the furtive movements were identifiable with a particular type of crime.

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    Yup, he said what he said.
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    I just don't understand how something can be no big deal in so many states, yet California is somehow different. Other cops seem to figure out that gang bangers and felons don't wear their firearms openly in proper holsters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RXtion View Post
    Perfect example of someone who has no business ever having a badge and a service weapon.
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    I hope none of the officers in my area think like this...
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    This guy is a putz...plane and simple...PUTZ
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    How do people still not realize that everything you put up on social networking sites is designed to let people look at it? It can keep you from getting a job, it can get you fired from a job, it can get you thrown in prison, or slapped with a law suit. Some people will just never learn. Yes, you have a freedom to speak your mind, but don't be surprised if doing so has consequences when you say something stupid.
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    Hopefully its all in jest.... Remedial training is in store for this officer, I would hope...
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    How much of a liability will this officer be to the city if he is ever involved in a shooting? When he is on the stand in court in a non-shooting case I can see his judgment being more easily attacked by opposing council.

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    What I don't get is why would anyone open carry a gun with it unloaded? That is just asking for trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike78 View Post
    What I don't get is why would anyone open carry a gun with it unloaded? That is just asking for trouble.
    I agree, but here's a long, but good, article about OC'ing in CA. Might give you some perspective on it. I know it was educational for me. Made me appreciate VA a bit.

    http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...in-california/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike78 View Post
    What I don't get is why would anyone open carry a gun with it unloaded? That is just asking for trouble.


    lets see unloaded gun with ammo nearby>no gun at all
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    Another example of why a lot of people do not trust and do not like the police. There are way too many of them who feel superior to the "common citizen". Only they should have guns. Only they can determine if you should be allowed to exercise your 2A rights.

    This clown needs to be fired and made an example of in a better way.
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