Local Cop Advocates Shooting Law Abiding Citizens - Merged 2x
This is a discussion on Local Cop Advocates Shooting Law Abiding Citizens - Merged 2x within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by Rob P.
The problem isn't that he has rights to say what he wants to as a private person. Or that we ...
February 9th, 2010 05:55 PM
But that is not what was said. He did not say he was going to shoot people for carrying a gun. He was pointing out the great possibility that they would get shot by the police or thugs stealing their unloaded guns.
Originally Posted by Rob P.
Was he out of line? yes, he was. But I do think the whole thing was taken out of context.
February 9th, 2010 06:59 PM
Originally Posted by SIXTO
But he did say his buddy should have taken out his AR and proned the guy out for exercising a legal right. And can an OC'er actually make a furtive movement for his gun? Can someone with that attitude make a good judgement call between furtive and nervous? Particularly if he has predetermined his plan of attack so to speak. And will most of the people reading this even see what furtive means? If he keeps his job I hope this wakes him up to how ridiculous an idea this was.
FURTIVE MOVEMENTS -- "Furtive" means secretive or concealing, and the law requires a totality of circumstances here. The movement cannot possibly be construed as an innocent gesture (looking both ways before crossing the street). Nervousness alone is not sufficient as the law recognizes the right of people to be nervous or fearful around police. The movement cannot also be possibly the sign of a mental condition. There must be something secretive given the time, setting, weather, and audience. It would be best if the furtive movements were identifiable with a particular type of crime.
February 9th, 2010 07:58 PM
Yup, he said what he said.
February 9th, 2010 09:34 PM
Stupid comes in all flavors.
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February 9th, 2010 09:51 PM
I just don't understand how something can be no big deal in so many states, yet California is somehow different. Other cops seem to figure out that gang bangers and felons don't wear their firearms openly in proper holsters.
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February 9th, 2010 11:54 PM
Originally Posted by RXtion
February 10th, 2010 10:05 AM
I hope none of the officers in my area think like this...
The Dalai Lama:"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun."
February 10th, 2010 02:33 PM
This guy is a putz...plane and simple...PUTZ
Don"t let stupid be your skill set....
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February 10th, 2010 04:08 PM
How do people still not realize that everything you put up on social networking sites is designed to let people look at it? It can keep you from getting a job, it can get you fired from a job, it can get you thrown in prison, or slapped with a law suit. Some people will just never learn. Yes, you have a freedom to speak your mind, but don't be surprised if doing so has consequences when you say something stupid.
February 10th, 2010 05:50 PM
Hopefully its all in jest.... Remedial training is in store for this officer, I would hope...
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February 10th, 2010 06:43 PM
How much of a liability will this officer be to the city if he is ever involved in a shooting? When he is on the stand in court in a non-shooting case I can see his judgment being more easily attacked by opposing council.
February 10th, 2010 07:07 PM
What I don't get is why would anyone open carry a gun with it unloaded? That is just asking for trouble.
True but: Having embalming fluid in your system is gotta be worse
February 10th, 2010 09:50 PM
I agree, but here's a long, but good, article about OC'ing in CA. Might give you some perspective on it. I know it was educational for me. Made me appreciate VA a bit.
Originally Posted by Mike78
February 10th, 2010 11:03 PM
Originally Posted by Mike78
lets see unloaded gun with ammo nearby>no gun at all
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February 11th, 2010 10:04 AM
Another example of why a lot of people do not trust and do not like the police. There are way too many of them who feel superior to the "common citizen". Only they should have guns. Only they can determine if you should be allowed to exercise your 2A rights.
This clown needs to be fired and made an example of in a better way.
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