May 30th, 2006 11:38 AM
I am sad to say that I think PDO Died Today, there was so much
cussing that I had to leave. Thank God that here we don't have that
problem here. I can only hope that PDO can some how heal it self,
and come back to the excellent site it used to be.
Last edited by enigmaone; May 30th, 2006 at 09:27 PM.
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May 30th, 2006 11:41 AM
PDO's self moderation expeirment has been a dismil failure imho , i still stop inn there to try and help with basic q's once in a while but no longer spend much time or effort
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May 30th, 2006 12:15 PM
I left there a long time ago. CC is 100 times better.
May 30th, 2006 11:50 PM
I hope they can get straightened out, too. We are very different sites and I never really considered that we were in competition with one another at all. With the numbers of new members over the past couple of days though, we may have been. I still wish them luck. You won't see the cussing or flaming over here. I would close this forum down before I would allow that to happen.....
Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde; Beware the anger of a patient man.
May 31st, 2006 08:16 AM
I noticed one of the new members said they hoped we kept up to date here. I think he's going to be in for a rude shock depending on what he's looking for.
Originally Posted by Bumper
EOD - Initial success or total failure
May 31st, 2006 09:09 AM
What Exactly Happened On packing.org recently ?
How about a brief factual summary of the recent events that transpired on packing.org that seemed to trip/trigger the huge influx of new (former PDO) members over to our CombatCarry site.
Some of you regular PDOers please brief me & satisfy my curiosity so that I don't hafta waste all sorts of time (that I don't have much of these days) going there to try to understand/sort out what exactly happened over there.
Factual and Truthful information appreciated.
Post it in this thread.
May 31st, 2006 09:12 AM
May 31st, 2006 09:43 AM
Hey ARTZ ~ You Lucky Dog...Didn't She Give You One Of These??? ~~~~~>
May 31st, 2006 04:20 PM
May 31st, 2006 05:20 PM
i am originally from PDO and the fighting back and forth and the immatureity of several people on there is killing the sight. very few on topic discussions take place. and the public moderation is useless because some guy(s) created a bot and several accounts to run threw and vote down any post if you said something this guy didnt agree with. the sight is doomed ive still got it on my favorites list but i rarely go there anymore.
May 31st, 2006 05:35 PM
PDO's meltdown is unfortunate because in better days it was a good source of CC law and extraneous info. Such is life. There's not enough civility in some places anymore (most places, IMHO), CC excepted...LOL
May 31st, 2006 05:47 PM
I'm a long time PDO member who has just joined here. So here's the skinny. The old site of a year or two ago was a great site that was moderated much like this one, I would compare it too handgunlaw.us and this site all in one. However there was a problem that emerged with a few moderators OVERmoderating the forum and in some cases deleting posts for poor or no reason at all due to personal vendetta's against certain other members. This obviously created an outcry for change, coupled with Mr. Solomon not being able to devote much time to the site anymore created the current incarnation of PDO. Which as a user moderated forum pretty much left the foxes in charge of the chicken-house. Posts could no longer truly be moderated, just the "user rating" of the poster downgraded. Which turned out to be a complete failure. Good posters were "bombed" by trolls and bad posters posted whatever they wanted with impunity. If there user rating became bad enough they would just create a new account. So now the site is in shambles, the information section is dated and the forum is a free-for-all. And it seems that Mr. Solomon is too busy or too frustrated to do anything about it. It's a shame because the site used to be a really great place.
May 31st, 2006 06:31 PM
I forgot the recent events, sorry. In the last couple months it has just gotten worse and worse with new trolls showing up, and normally good members getting frustrated and acting out. It's gotten to the point that over half the posts are just garbage from trolls, or posts complaining about the current state of affairs. Lot's of vulgarity, personal attacks etc. It finally got to the point that alot of us, even those of us who have been regulars for years, had to find someplace else. I want to read about CC and firearms, not bickering and whining. Not to mention that database is no longer being maintained for many states.
May 31st, 2006 08:35 PM
May 31st, 2006 08:46 PM
One thing is clear - you PDO guys obviously do not like trolls, personal attacks etc - and so that is good as we try to keep that all very controlled here - not for dictatorial reasons but for the benefit of the majority. Bumper's mission is clearcut.
As best we can this will be the ongoing and continuing approach and it is made easier by the assistance of all members. I would ask that if someone sees something inappropriate to our guidelines they use the option to the left - as it gets real hard for us to stay on top of everything all the time - even more so as we get way bigger!!
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