Michael Moore in legal deep doo doo

Michael Moore in legal deep doo doo

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    Michael Moore in legal deep doo doo

    I pulled this off the drudgereport. If this guy wins, One more gun grabber will be in financial ruins. We can only pray and support our troops! Especially this one!!!

    Posted on Wed, May. 31, 2006

    Iraq veteran sues Moore over 9/11 film
    DENISE LAVOIE
    Associated Press
    BOSTON - A veteran who lost both arms in the war in Iraq is suing filmmaker Michael Moore for $85 million, alleging that Moore used snippets of a television interview without his permission to falsely portray him as anti-war in "Fahrenheit 9/11."

    Sgt. Peter Damon, a National Guardsman from Middleborough, is asking for damages because of "loss of reputation, emotional distress, embarrassment, and personal humiliation," according to the lawsuit filed in Suffolk Superior Court last week.

    Damon, 33, claims that Moore never asked for his consent to use a clip from an interview Damon did with NBC's "Nightly News."

    He lost his arms when a tire on a Black Hawk helicopter exploded while he and another reservist were servicing the aircraft on the ground. Another reservist was killed in the explosion.

    In his interview with NBC, Damon was asked about a new painkiller the military was using on wounded veterans. He claims in his lawsuit that the way Moore used the film clip in "Fahrenheit 9/11" - Moore's scathing 2004 documentary criticizing the Bush administration and the war in Iraq - makes him appear to "voice a complaint about the war effort" when he was actually complaining about "the excruciating type of pain" that comes with the injury he suffered.

    In the movie, Damon is shown lying on a gurney, with his wounds bandaged. He says he feels likes he's "being crushed in a vise."

    "But they (the painkillers) do a lot to help it," he says. "And they take a lot of the edge off of it."

    Damon is shown shortly after U.S. Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash., is speaking about the Bush administration and says, "You know, they say they're not leaving any veterans behind, but they're leaving all kinds of veterans behind."

    Damon contends that Moore's positioning of the clip just after the congressman's comments makes him appear as if he feels like he was "left behind" by the Bush administration and the military.

    In his lawsuit, Damon says he "agrees with and supports the President and the United States' war effort, and he was not left behind."

    He said that, while at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center recovering from his wounds, he had surgery and physical therapy, learned to use prosthetics and live independently. He also said that Homes For Our Troops, a not-for-profit group, built him a house with handicapped accessibility.

    "The work creates a substantially fictionalized and falsified implication as a wounded serviceman who was left behind when Plaintiff was not left behind but supported, financially and emotionally, by the active assistance of the President, the United States and his family, friends, acquaintances and community," Damon says in his lawsuit.

    Moore did not immediately return calls seeking comment Wednesday. A message was left for Moore at a personal number in New York and with HarperCollins, publisher of Moore's 2002 book, "Stupid White Men...And Other Sorry Excuses for the State of the Nation!"

    A spokesman for Miramax Film Corp., also named as a defendant, did not immediately return a call.

    Damon did not immediately respond to a request for an interview.

    "It's upsetting to him because he's lived his life supportive of his government, he's been a patriot, he's been a soldier, and he's now being portrayed in a movie that is the antithesis of all of that," Damon's lawyer, Dennis Lynch, said.

    Damon is seeking $75 million in damages for emotional distress and loss of reputation. His wife is suing for an additional $10 million in damages because of the mental distress caused to her husband, Lynch said.
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    Good for him. I hope he wins and takes out that commie.
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    Moore is a moron. But I don't think this guy is going to get $85 million. And while I have to admit part of me wants to see him win and Moore bankrupt, I didn't think it a good tactic when the anti's tried to use it against the gun makers and I don't really like it now either. The guy should get something but he must have a very big reputation and have suffered a lot of personal humiliation if it takes that much money to make up for it.
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    I think we'll have to see how this one plays out in Court. The only folks who will be able to make proper judgement are those that get access to the unedited interview.

    This guy might also have a tough time answering how come it took him so long to file legal action..... Hasn't the movie been out at least a couple years?
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    Roger Moore, couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Maybe he will be tied up in court too much to have time to make any more crappy movies for awhile!

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    Quote Originally Posted by warwagon
    Roger Moore, couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Maybe he will be tied up in court too much to have time to make any more crappy movies for awhile!
    Uh, we're talkin' Michael Moore, the alleged documentary film maker and Oscar thief, here, not Roger Moore, one of the many portrayers of James Bond.


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    While I support anything that gives Moore a swift kick in the .. er... kidneys, I don't see much light at the end of the tunnel for this one. But one can hope!

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    Prime example of earning bad Kharma...

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    Here's a guy that started out with a home video camera jumping on a tender subject at the time. By working the media and lots of PR he's become the National Enquirer of Documentories. He's like one of the big ambulance chasing law firms. He has staff to work angles, do the digging. Just ask the questions and see how we can edit and play it. And he's playing to a audiance that these films are geared to. He'll use key words and imagining to good effect. You have to give to him and his crew they know marketing, and how to work people, look at the speech at the awards, right when his movie is out. Lots of free, widespread advertising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyW
    And while I have to admit part of me wants to see him win and Moore bankrupt, I didn't think it a good tactic when the anti's tried to use it against the gun makers and I don't really like it now either. The guy should get something but he must have a very big reputation and have suffered a lot of personal humiliation if it takes that much money to make up for it.
    I don't see the similarity between what the antis tried to do to the gun makers and the suit brought against Moore. The tactic against gun makers was to try to make them responsible for the wrong use of a tool that was both legal to produce and legally sold. The suit against Moore is for taking news footage of a man and 1) using it without his consent, and 2) using it is such a way as to portray the man's position as diametrically opposed to what it really is.

    Michael Moore made the film. An individual has the right to determine how, where, and by whom his image is used. In order to use the image there are contracts that have to be signed. Giving permission to a news program to air an interview does not give anybody else the right to use that interview. If a local TV station interviews you and your agreement is with them and does not include the rights to let the network or other news organizations use it, the network and other news organizations have to get permission from you. If you are a celebrity this is not necessarily so.

    If you are meaning that filing suit is the same method used by the antis, I agree that it is. The problem with the analogy at that point is that there is no other recourse provided in our laws for the individual to stop Michael Moore from using the images and defaming the individual. As for the 85 mil. I doubt that he will win that much nor collect near that much. The reason for the large amount is that the film is still in existence. It is available on DVD and VHS. There is no way to go back and take the offending footage out. The damage is done over and over everytime the film is viewed.
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    The last paragraph there is what I was intending. The similarity, IMO, is that the courts are being used to gain an objective. In the case of the anti's to put the gun makers out of business. This seems to be excessive and intended to hurt Moore. Like I said, $85 million is a lot of pain and anguish.

    I definitely agree that Moore did something wrong, unlike gun makers.
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    I hope he wins and moore drys up and blows away like dog crap does

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    Moore wasn’t lying, he was only using Truth in the liberal sense of the word,

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    Moore....what a useless piece of human garbage of a smug liar he is.

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    That dude wont get 85 million.

    Instead, the lawyers will agree to settle out of court for a paltry 8.5 millon. After lawyer feees and taxes....he might have about 3 millon clear.

    Thats how it works...

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