This is a discussion on immigration bill within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by morintp Whatever floats your boat. Read my posts or not, I really don't care. I have better things to do than worry ...
I don't think anyone is going to acquiesce their stand on this issue.
We all agree that there is a problem.
We also agree that the Fed, whose responsibility it is to protect our borders, has dropped the ball. Both parties.
Because of the violent and extremity of the consequences of this issue, the citizens of Arizona, following the protocols of law, enacted this law. To preserve and to defend our families, our culture and in short, our way of life.
The time for diplomacy has passed. People are being killed everyday. Kidnappings and other outrages against human decency are not met with patience, any longer. Why do the invasive culture get defended? Why are the invaders identified as the victims?
We, the people of Arizona, are the victims. Victims of an oppressive Federal Gov't, who would sell the virtue of our families for a few measly votes. Who deliberately turn a blind eye to the atrocities on the southern border, they justify it for their own greedy pursuits. We elected the Fed to do their job in our name. They failed. So, in our own name; we will defend our borders, language and culture. If we fail, you'll all feel it from Arizona to Montana. San Diego to Bangor.
We discuss the ability to identify deadly threats on every thread in this forum. No warning shots. No duty to retreat. This is the castle doctrine in simple form.
America is our castle. Freedom is our culture. This is damn near a war, if we remain ignorant to the real threats that this invasion carries.
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"A heavily armed citizenry is not about overthrowing the government; it is about preventing the government from overthrowing liberty. A people stripped of their right of self defense is defenseless against their own government." -source
History has also shown us that when topics get sidetracked they get closed. BikerRN has stated how he feels to anyone that cares. There is no use taking issue with it, but if you insist, take it to Private Messaging. If not, we close this one and be done with it. Move on and discuss the originial topic.History has shown us what happens when we get caught up in the heat of issues and allow our emotions and frustrations to guide our actions.
I am not speaking of this again.
Freedom of speech means nothing to those who are too weak in their convictions to speak out against the evil that eating the heart of a nation like a cancer- Billy Graham
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No, changed my mind. Don't close this. How about just enforcing forum rules about not promoting or inciting illegal acts, and removing the posts of the offenders.
There is something morally loathsome and bankrupt about what some people are speaking of. Yes, I know it is out of frustration, but it is also beyond what should be allowed.
I feel the law is a step in the right direction, as we all know something must be done to protect our borders and way of life. Maybe this law can be tweeked to ensure that there are procedures in place to make sure legals are not harrassed. I wonder if this law is more of a statement to the Fed Gov that the people are fed up with this problem, than meant to actually solve the issue. I would be curious as to how the state can substain the financial ability to deport these illegals on a long term basis. Does anyone have any insight or idea on this?
TUCSON (KGUN9-TV) - Congressman Raul Grijalva is leading the charge for big businesses to ban Arizona and spend their convention money in other states.
I wasn't planning a trip to Arizona this year, but i haven't visited Meteor Crater or the Grand Canyon since the late 70's. I think a visit to Arizona is long overdue.
The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits. ~ Albert Einstein
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To me it's cut and dried, they are INVADING our Country, ignoring the recognized border between Mexico and USA.
What upsets me also is the fact they leave the hell hole of Mexico behind them, and bring that same culture here, while looking for a better life, so they say.
If I was the Governor of Arizona, and was not allowed to send them back to Mexico, I darn well would put them on a bus and ship them to Washington, DC. Let the Feds enjoy all they bring to this great country of ours.
In my opinion, there is nothing at all wrong with racial profiling, you can profile, and not be a "racist or bigot" very easy to do.
An ounce of lead is worth 200lbs of cop.
You may not like guns. You may choose not to own one. That is your right.
You might not believe in God. That is your choice.
However, if someone breaks into your home at 3AM the first two things you are going to do are:
1) Call someone with a gun.
2)Pray they get there in time." - A wise man
We have had so very many people post here in other threads about how upset they were when stopped at an inland border checkpoint and questioned briefly, or merely been given a close look. We have had so many post here about how concerned they are that our society is degenerating into a "papers please" society.
There are simply better ways to deal with the illegal immigrant problem than creating a law which harms some US citizens and not others.
It is fine for those not immediately affected to say that doesn't concern them, but you know, draconian legislation has a way of getting out of hand. First it doesn't affect you or your neighbor. Then it affects your neighbor a mile away. Then your next door neighbor, and finally they come for you.
We all know that drill from history.