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    My Church

    This is the church that I attend in Independence Missouri. I just started and have been there 7-8 times. The pastor was having an affair with one of the members and allegedly shot the lady's husband.

    Murder victim's family sorts through speculation - NBC Action News KSHB-TV 41

    Supposedly the guy that was killed had a CCW permit and normally kept a gun in his desk at work.


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    Geez... Keep us updated man, terrible to hear.
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    i saw this on tv.......
    this will be interesting how it will turn out.
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    The pastor was having an affair with one of the members and allegedly shot the lady's husband.
    How do you know this? I didn't see anything in the story to suggest it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jumpwing View Post
    How do you know this? I didn't see anything in the story to suggest it.
    Here is another story on it.

    Family of Slain Insurance Agent Says Alleged Affair Connected to Death - WDAF
    Don't do things you don't want to explain to the Paramedics!

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    Ah. Thanks.

    I see a ton of speculation and juicy innuendo. I'm very curious to see the case they present once the investigation is over.
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    I saw the story on the local news. Deacons and other members had to know of the affair. May I suggest changing churches?.
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    I'll have to wait for more information on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jumpwing View Post
    Ah. Thanks.

    I see a ton of speculation and juicy innuendo. I'm very curious to see the case they present once the investigation is over.
    I agree. News and Facts arenít necessarily the same thing.

    This is a sad situation no matter what the facts turn out to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevem174 View Post
    I agree. News and Facts arenít necessarily the same thing.

    This is a sad situation no matter what the facts turn out to be.
    I will only post the facts and boy are you right on the news and facts.

    He resigned his position because of the affair. That was on their website. I live right around the corner from him and the CSI van has been at his house twice and a police detective has sat outside of his house for a week because they think he is a flight risk. He also officiated at the slain man's funeral.

    One of the family members stated that she has passed 6 lie detectors. My question is why would someone have to take 6 lie detector tests. Were the first 5 faulty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911PKR View Post
    May I suggest changing churches?.
    We are waiting it out to see who takes over but I am really thinking about it. We started going because our good friends suggested it to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete14 View Post
    We are waiting it out to see who takes over but I am really thinking about it. We started going because our good friends suggested it to us.
    The leadership makes or breaks a Church. And the pastor is not the only leader they're responsible for what happens. I'd pray hard about it if you are looking at staying. Anyone that knew should be asked to step down. If I understood the pastor correctly at our lunch meeting, it is the Deacons responsibility to ask that he steps down if they knew. Whether they knew is the question. Regardless, it seems like this pastor fell hard and is taking the Church and part of he reputation of the Faith with him. It's terrible to see this happen regardless, but much more so to see a pastor involved.
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    I say the wife did it and the pastor can't/won't say anything about it.
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    It was probably George Bush's fault.

    Seriously? You might check out Reformed Presbyterian churches: there are some points at which they are significantly at odds with Baptists, and the good ones are certainly at odds with typical American 'churchianity'.

    You might even ask around to find a church which has excommunicated members in the recent past: if they have the avocados to do that I'll certainly take them as serious players in the faith even if I might disagree at a point or two.
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    I would have serious doubts about the Scriptural credibility of any church that excommunicates members. Likewise for churches that enforce tithing or confession. I'm not suggesting that pedophiles be put in charge of Sunday School classes, or that convicted burglars be responsible for counting the offering money; but being forcibly and permanently cut off isn't supported by my Bible (unless certain passages are taken completely out of context).


    *** ETA: It appears we (Paymeister and I) may have differing definitions of "excommunication." According to his PM'd definition, I would concur with his above post.
    Last edited by jumpwing; May 2nd, 2010 at 04:01 PM. Reason: Clarification
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