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    the way the media really reports from iraq
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    Sad but true.
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    That about seems to sum it up
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    The worst thing that ever happened to public information is the news media. We have digressed from "all the news, all the time" to all that the press wants us to ever know, and only that edited part in which they believe.

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    I don't blame this one on the media, I blame those in Washington. They are the ones feeding this garbage to the media.

    Here's Washington's play on things... Hey lets start a war and then blame our solders so we in Washington will look good to the foreigners we are fighting. I don't think D C has much pride left.

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    Ain't that the truth. So much is business-as-usual up on the Hill, where fat bureaucrats play power games and jockey for position and favor using whatever springboard or underhanded tactic they can dig up...never matters who gets hurt, as long as they get to keep flying on private corporate jets and jaunting off to Scotland for a round of golf on our dime.

    A CNN reporter was scheduled to come visit us in Al-Anbar in 2005. We politely declined and made sure we were not available that week - as in we were patrolling and sleeping in our vehicles.

    A friend of mine wrote this article, and it explores a little of what Time and your government may have chosen not to tell you about the Haditha story.
    Tony Attanasio is former NYPD and DEA and is the author of "The Orchid Memorandum". I haven't seen his fact-checking yet, but it would be out of character for him to make it completely up. As always, think for yourselves, I just thought it was interesting:

    Time's massacre

    Published June 14, 2006

    With Marines being accused of war crimes, the blogosphere is doing
    what it
    does best: scrutinizing the reporting. In this case, the site
    Sweetness &
    Light has been on Time magazine's case for what appears to be
    concerns over its reporting of the Nov. 19 Haditha incident, in which
    Marines are under investigation for killing two dozen innocent Iraqis.

    Time first broke the story on Haditha in March, four months after the
    incident - a delay which too few of the Marines' more ardent accusers
    as Rep. John Murtha) failed to question. One of Time's key sources
    who had
    taken footage of the aftermath was represented only as a "journalism
    student." It has since been learned that this eyewitness was Taher
    Thabet al

    Here's how Time reporter Aparisim Ghosh described Mr. Hadithi: "[H]
    e's a
    young local man . He brought the tape to Hammurabi Human Rights. and
    brought it to us once they found out that we were inquiring about

    In fact, Mr. Hadithi is middle-aged and a co-founder of the Hammurabi
    Organization. The Associated Press has described him as an "Iraqi
    investigator." Either Mr. Hadithi misrepresented himself to Time, or
    chose not to mention his association with the previously unknown
    Organization in its original article on the incident.

    Then there's the timing issue. Mr. Hadithi says he witnessed Marines
    house to house killing Iraqis, and videotaped the aftermath the next
    This raises the question of why Mr. Hadithi, or the Hammurabi
    waited at least two months before bringing his tape to the attention
    of the
    mainstream media, especially since Hammurabi proclaims itself a human-
    group. Nor did Hammurabi's other founder, Abdul-Rahman al Mashhadani,
    mention the alleged massacre during an interview with the Institute
    for War
    and Peace in December.

    In a June 4 article, Time acknowledged Mr. Hadithi's connections to
    Hammurabi Organization, and this time labeled him a "budding Iraqi
    journalist and human-rights activist." The article concludes, "If
    there is
    any beneficiary at all of the tragedy, it is Hammurabi.which is
    flooded with
    new volunteers and free to do its work more aggressively."

    Time has had to correct its earlier contention that it received the
    from Human Rights Watch, which Time identified as working with the
    Organization. Human Rights Watch, as Time now acknowledges, has no
    association with Hammurabi, raising yet another question: Just what
    is the
    Hammurabi Organization? More to the point, did Time adequately vet its
    founders for conflicts of interest before printing their story and
    our troops at greater risk?

    Time has also had to correct its reporting that "one of the most
    pieces of evidence investigators have in their possession, John
    Sifton of
    Human Rights Watch told Time's Tim McGirk, is a photo, taken by a
    with his cell phone that shows Iraqis kneeling - and thus posing no
    threat -
    before they were shot." Mr. Sifton has now admitted to Time that he
    has no
    firsthand knowledge of this mysterious photo.

    As counter-evidence goes, Time's misreporting unfortunately does
    little to
    clear up what happened in Haditha. But as a case-in-point lesson in
    how the
    media can artfully angle a story, it's evidence enough.

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    Micheal Yon has a good blog and did a great job telling about being embeded.

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    Even worse than that Yahoo has a story

    about Islamofascists cutting noses off people and it's no where on NBC, CBS, or even Fox. It's disgusting that we are told that we are horrible people for months because a couple of soldiers are a little to aggressive at abu Grahib and barely a word about what the monsters that we are fighting are really like.
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    It's amazing how much the media hates "us" isn't it? The "us" that they live among.
    eschew obfuscation

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    Interesting! I just happened to receive this email yesterday, and please note, I have not had a chance to confirm it:

    Did you know that 25 Iraq students departed for the United States in January 2005 for the re-established Fulbright program? Did you know that the Iraqi Navy is operational?! They have 5-100-foot patrol craft, 34 smaller vessels and a naval infantry regiment.

    Did you know that Iraq's Air Force consists of three operational squadrons, which includes 9 reconnaissance and 3 US C-130 transport aircraft (under Iraqi operational control) which operate day and night, and will soon add 16 UH-1 helicopters and 4 Bell Jet Rangers?

    Did you know that Iraq has a counter-terrorist unit and a Commando Battalion?

    Did you know that the Iraqi Police Service has over 55,000 fully trained and equipped police officers? Did you know that there are 5 Police Academies in Iraq that produce over 3500 new officers each 8 weeks?

    Did you know there are more than 1100 building projects going on in Iraq? They include 364 schools, 67 public clinics, 15 hospitals, 83 railroad stations, 22 oil facilities, 93 water facilities and 69 electrical facilities. Did you know that 96% of Iraqi children under the age of 5 have received the first 2 series of polio vaccinations? Did you know that 4.3 million Iraqi children were enrolled in primary school by mid October?

    Did you know that there are 1,192,000 cell phone subscribers in Iraq and phone use has gone up 158%? Did you know that Iraq has an independent media that consists of 75 radio stations, 180 newspapers and 10 television stations?

    Did you know that 47 countries have reestablished their embassies in Iraq? Did you know that the Iraqi government currently employs 1.2 million Iraqi people?

    Did you know that 3100 schools have been renovated, 364 schools are under rehabilitation, 263 schools are now under construction and 38 new schools have been built in Iraq? Did you know that Iraq's higher educational structure consists of 20 Universities, 46 Institutes or colleges and 4 research centers, all currently operating?

    Did you know that the Baghdad Stock Exchange opened in June of 2004? Did you know that 2 candidates in the Iraqi presidential election had a televised debate recently?


    Instead of reflecting our love for our country, we get photos of flag burning incidents at Abu Ghraib and people throwing snowballs at the presidential motorcades. The lack of accentuating the positive in Iraq serves two purposes. It is intended to undermine the world's perception of the United States, thus minimizing consequential support, and it is intended to discourage American citizens.

    *** Above facts are verifiable on the Department of Defense web site.


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