Asked why I drive an SUV

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    Asked why I drive an SUV

    I was in my local gun store and one guy asked me "with these gas prices, why do you still drive an SUV?"

    I chuckled and said "The same reason I carry a .45...stopping power."

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    Well put.
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    Simple answer "This is America where I have the freedom drive anything I want and can afford".
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    Not to mention that unless you put a significant amount of miles on your SUV that buying a new fuel efficient car is going to cost you more anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dstringf View Post
    Not to mention that unless you put a significant amount of miles on your SUV that buying a new fuel efficient car is going to cost you more anyway.
    Yup every situation is unique. In my case, I don't owe on my 4x4 pickup, and it gets me where I need to go. I very possibly may be getting a small sedan (Mercury Tracer, AKA ford escort) for cheap from a buddy and selling my truck to save on gas and it has alot less miles on it than my truck. (My wife is a student, so money is tight.).

    OFF TOPIC RANT:I can say that hybrids are a bit of a joke. For the extra money you spend on the car itself, you really don't save any money. Maybe on gas, sure, but the purchase price of a comperable size vehicle is substaincially cheaper. We got our Corolla for about 10k less than a Prius would have been, and I couldn't imagine how much CITY driving it would take to make up the difference, much less start saving. And my wife mainly highway commutes where there is no significant MPG advantage. AND for all the people that got it to "save the environment", how about all those batteries that make it a hybrid with rare earth metals? How are you doing to environmentally responsibly dispose of them when the vehicle is out of service? How about the negative effect on the environment of actually building the vehicle (pollution/resources) used vs keeping an older vehicle on the road? Normally I'd just fix and keep an older vehicle, but my wifes old car was not meeting our needs and needed some work, so why invest in a vehicle that didn't meet my needs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghettokracker71 View Post

    OFF TOPIC RANT:I can say that hybrids are a bit of a joke. For the extra money you spend on the car itself, you really don't save any money. Maybe on gas, sure, but the purchase price of a comperable size vehicle is substaincially cheaper. We got our Corolla for about 10k less than a Prius would have been, and I couldn't imagine how much CITY driving it would take to make up the difference, much less start saving. And my wife mainly highway commutes where there is no significant MPG advantage. AND for all the people that got it to "save the environment", how about all those batteries that make it a hybrid with rare earth metals? How are you doing to environmentally responsibly dispose of them when the vehicle is out of service? How about the negative effect on the environment of actually building the vehicle (pollution/resources) used vs keeping an older vehicle on the road? Normally I'd just fix and keep an older vehicle, but my wifes old car was not meeting our needs and needed some work, so why invest in a vehicle that didn't meet my needs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghettokracker71 View Post
    Yup every situation is unique. In my case, I don't owe on my 4x4 pickup, and it gets me where I need to go. I very possibly may be getting a small sedan (Mercury Tracer, AKA ford escort) for cheap from a buddy and selling my truck to save on gas and it has alot less miles on it than my truck. (My wife is a student, so money is tight.).

    OFF TOPIC RANT:I can say that hybrids are a bit of a joke. For the extra money you spend on the car itself, you really don't save any money. Maybe on gas, sure, but the purchase price of a comperable size vehicle is substaincially cheaper. We got our Corolla for about 10k less than a Prius would have been, and I couldn't imagine how much CITY driving it would take to make up the difference, much less start saving. And my wife mainly highway commutes where there is no significant MPG advantage. AND for all the people that got it to "save the environment", how about all those batteries that make it a hybrid with rare earth metals? How are you doing to environmentally responsibly dispose of them when the vehicle is out of service? How about the negative effect on the environment of actually building the vehicle (pollution/resources) used vs keeping an older vehicle on the road? Normally I'd just fix and keep an older vehicle, but my wifes old car was not meeting our needs and needed some work, so why invest in a vehicle that didn't meet my needs?
    I really torque some of the tree huggers I know. I have a 1994 K2500 Suburban with a 6.5 Turbo Diesel. But I run B100 BioDiesel in it. So I have a fully paid for, eight passenger plus cargo vehicle, with an unrefueled range over six hundred miles with a smaller carbon foot print than a Prius! Oh yeah, for an on the street applied physics lesson you want to be in that Prius or my six thousand plus pound truck when things get ugly?

    Oh yeah, for about $200 in parts I can set up a reactor in my garage and make bioDiesel for about a buck and a quarter a gallon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghettokracker71 View Post
    Yup every situation is unique. In my case, I don't owe on my 4x4 pickup, and it gets me where I need to go. I very possibly may be getting a small sedan (Mercury Tracer, AKA ford escort) for cheap from a buddy and selling my truck to save on gas and it has alot less miles on it than my truck. (My wife is a student, so money is tight.).

    OFF TOPIC RANT:I can say that hybrids are a bit of a joke. For the extra money you spend on the car itself, you really don't save any money. Maybe on gas, sure, but the purchase price of a comperable size vehicle is substaincially cheaper. We got our Corolla for about 10k less than a Prius would have been, and I couldn't imagine how much CITY driving it would take to make up the difference, much less start saving. And my wife mainly highway commutes where there is no significant MPG advantage. AND for all the people that got it to "save the environment", how about all those batteries that make it a hybrid with rare earth metals? How are you doing to environmentally responsibly dispose of them when the vehicle is out of service? How about the negative effect on the environment of actually building the vehicle (pollution/resources) used vs keeping an older vehicle on the road? Normally I'd just fix and keep an older vehicle, but my wifes old car was not meeting our needs and needed some work, so why invest in a vehicle that didn't meet my needs?
    +2.

    As an aside I had a buddy buy a $13,000 dollar motorcycle a few years back. His excuse was to save on gas money. I live in NE Ohio where you can only ride a motorcycle about 150 days a year TOPS! He was trying to tell me how responsible of a move it was. I laughed in his face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcp1810 View Post
    I really torque some of the tree huggers I know. I have a 1994 K2500 Suburban with a 6.5 Turbo Diesel. But I run B100 BioDiesel in it. So I have a fully paid for, eight passenger plus cargo vehicle, with an unrefueled range over six hundred miles with a smaller carbon foot print than a Prius! Oh yeah, for an on the street applied physics lesson you want to be in that Prius or my six thousand plus pound truck when things get ugly?

    Oh yeah, for about $200 in parts I can set up a reactor in my garage and make bioDiesel for about a buck and a quarter a gallon.

    Diesel is the way to go, my friend! Smaller carbon footprint, no shortage of power, engines last significantly longer than gas engines with proper maintence. And the fuel source is 100% natural and replenishable right here in the USA! (Biodiesel, wich is better anyway.) I really want a powerstroke pickup(or 7.3 Excursion), but its not in the budget, and this Tracer I'm looking into is a really grand deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by atctimmy View Post
    +2.

    As an aside I had a buddy buy a $13,000 dollar motorcycle a few years back. His excuse was to save on gas money. I live in NE Ohio where you can only ride a motorcycle about 150 days a year TOPS! He was trying to tell me how responsible of a move it was. I laughed in his face.
    Sounds more like how he convinced his wife (?) to let him get it,....


    EDITED: That being said, I've driven anything from a Chevelle 4 door (dont hate! It was still fast) to a CRX, to an F250, to a Ranger (current.)

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    Cuz I'm still free to do so... I have 3 5.7 vortec V-8's. Mostly older models. I refuse to join the tree huggin' libs who are going to "save the planet" by driving a little dangerous POS cuz Al Gore wants to make $ off this scam of his. We are oil dependant, and we have plenty of it right here the US, if the libs will just let us drill for it.

    Damn .... nutter rant.

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    Bigger isn't necessarily safer. Just the other day my daughter and I saw a Honda Civic and a Ford Expedition hit head on, quarter to quarter.

    The Honda was damaged, but it was still driveable enough to get it out of the road. Some frontal damage, hood, flat tire, etc.

    The Expedition had flipped and landed on it's side. The frame was tweaked enough that none of the doors on the skyward side would open. (Obviously, the doors on the down side weren't opening) The very large woman had to be pulled out through the sunroof. The left front wheel and lower suspension arm were ripped completely off.

    Also consider that a smaller, better handling car may allow you to avoid a crash entirely, whereas that gigantic SUV doesn't handle as well, and has far longer stopping distance than most smaller and lighter cars.

    Of course, there's no way to know exactly what kind of crash, if any, you're going to be in. Just like security, avoidance is the best policy.
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    I read something when I was in college (I can try to find the paper again if anybody is that interested), that said that at our current rate of consumption and accounting for inflation in population we still have over 200 years before we will actually run out of oil. So if we can't figure out something different in 5 generations, then a few people driving "effecient" cars isn't going to add enough years to that to make a difference anyways. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shackleton View Post
    I was in my local gun store and one guy asked me "with these gas prices, why do you still drive an SUV?"

    I chuckled and said "The same reason I carry a .45...stopping power."

    I actually like SUV's, but, I think it's lack of stopping power or inabilty to stop. Anybody is free to drive what they want, but statistically(accident rate), SUV's are probably the most dangerous vehicle on the road. Partly by design, it's just a big box on wheels that drive and handles like an extended Econoline van. And partly from a sense of security because your above most traffic.
    Again, I don't care what you drive, just drive safe. It's just the only people I know who have actually manage to roll a vehicle (which takes "work"), all 3 were SUV's, and only one of those involved another car.

    Quote Originally Posted by dstringf View Post
    Not to mention that unless you put a significant amount of miles on your SUV that buying a new fuel efficient car is going to cost you more anyway.
    It's completely mileage dependant. If he gets really crappy MPG (10-15 or less) and upgrades to 30 MPG it makes sense. But to upgrade for less than 30 MPG ,the difference is marginal. I think most gains are made when the improvement is 100%. Plus, that assumes gas prices are steady. IMO, if gas hits up $4-5/gal and stays there, everything changes.

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    Because I can counter boy!! Now you got a 50 I can look at.

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    Most of us seem to be on the same page

    Paid for -- my 2001 Silverado and 2002 4Runner. Lots of miles but they keep running (I wonder if changing the oil and doing other service has anything to do with that).

    Between the 2, I drive around 18,000 miles per year. Besides the fact I couldn't load much in a Prius (those plywood sheets just don't fit very well), I figure I'd need about 12 years to break even on a hybrid. Simpleton like me figures it is a no-brainer -- Don't buy an Obamamobile and come out ahead.

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