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    - July 09, 2010

    U.S., Mexican Officials Say They Can't Confirm Arrest of Hezbollah Operative on Border

    Officials in the U.S. and Mexico say they cannot confirm a widely-circulating report out of Kuwait that a Hezbollah leader has been arrested in Mexico.


    Officials in the U.S. and Mexico say they cannot confirm a widely-circulating report out of Kuwait that a Hezbollah leader has been arrested in Mexico.

    The Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Seyassah reported last week that Hezbollah operatives had employed Mexican nationals with ties to Lebanon to set up a network in South America designed to target Israel and the West, and that the group's alleged leader, Jameel Nasr, had been arrested in Tijuana.

    According to the report, authorities in Mexico conducted a surveillance operation on Nasr, who traveled frequently to Lebanon to receive instructions from Hezbollah militants.

    Nasr -- who was said to be living in Tijuana at the time of his reported arrest -- made frequent trips to other countries in Latin America, including a two-month stay in Venezuela in 2008, according to the report.

    Attempts to confirm that an arrest had taken place were unsuccessful. Police officials in Tijuana told FoxNews.com that they no information pertaining to Nasr and Mexican embassy officials in Washington did not return multiple messages seeking comment. U.S. State Department officials said they could not confirm Nasr's arrest but would be unable to do so if the arrest occurred in Mexico. Officials at Interpol also did not immediately reply to messages seeking comment.

    The Department of Homeland Security said it does not have "any credible information" that terrorist groups are operating along America's Southwest border.

    On June 23, two weeks before Nasr's reported arrest, U.S. Rep. Sue Myrick, R-N.C., wrote a letter to Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano calling for more "intelligence gathering" on Hezbollah's presence along the U.S.-Mexico border and requested a task force be created to evaluate the terror network's presence, activities and connections to drug cartels.

    The congresswoman also noted that officials in Southwestern states have begun noticing tattoos of gang members in prison that are written in Farsi.

    "We have typically seen tattoos in Arabic, but Farsi implies a Persian influence that can likely be traced back to Iran and its proxy army, Hezbollah," the letter continued. "These tattoos in Farsi are almost always seen in combination with gang or drug cartel tattoos. These combinations have been increasing in number and point to the fact that these criminals are tied to both Hezbollah and gangs and drug cartels."

    Drug cartels and Hezbollah operatives have been partnering along the U.S-Mexico border in part due to Hezbollah's experience in the rugged terrain along the border, according to Myrick's letter, which cited former intelligence officials.

    "This terrain is very much like the areas around Israel's borders," the letter continued. "As we well know, Hezbollah is extremely skilled in the construction of tunnels. Israel has time and again found Hezbollah tunnels leading into Israel, some of which are large enough to accommodate trucks. Likewise, these intelligence officials say that the drug cartels, in an effort to dig larger and more effective tunnels, are employing the expertise of Hezbollah."

    In a statement issued to FoxNews.com, DHS spokesman Matt Chandler said the agency would respond directly to Myrick and said it does not have any "credible information" on terrorist groups operating along the border.

    "DHS secures our border based on an intelligence-driven, layered enforcement approach; an effort that includes advance information, sophisticated technology and partnerships with law enforcement agencies and other countries," Chandler's statement read. "At this time, DHS does not have any credible information on terrorist groups operating along the Southwest Border."

    Meanwhile, Jeffrey Addicott, director of the Center for Terrorism and Law at St. Mary's University in Texas, said its "pretty common knowledge" within the intelligence community that Islamic radical groups and their affiliates have been operating in Central and South America for some time, as well as within U.S. cities.

    "Every major city in this country has Hamas or Hezbollah sympathizers or supporters," Addicott told FoxNews.com. "They're worldwide organizations. There's a lot of stuff going on under the radar, but we havenít had a large incident to bring it to our attention."
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    Quote Originally Posted by paaiyan View Post


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    So, what is the story???

    Quote Originally Posted by SatCong View Post
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    U.S., Mexican Officials Say They Can't Confirm Arrest of Hezbollah Operative on Border

    Officials in the U.S. and Mexico say they cannot confirm a widely-circulating report out of Kuwait that a Hezbollah leader has been arrested in Mexico.

    Officials in the U.S. and Mexico say they cannot confirm a widely-circulating report out of Kuwait that a Hezbollah leader has been arrested in Mexico.
    So what is the story here? Nothing confirmed. There isn't enough in the story to know much of anything. More of the usual fear for fear's sake from a notorious propaganda mill of a cable channel, I think, but am willing to be convinced.

    From the story: "The Department of Homeland Security said it does not have "any credible information" that terrorist groups are operating along America's Southwest border."

    This, if true is interesting,
    from the story: "The congresswoman also noted that officials in Southwestern states have begun noticing tattoos of gang members in prison that are written in Farsi."

    The key of course, is "if true," and also, how widespread, and also, why? Are they simply imprisoning people who have picked up some symbol to use as a tattoo without knowing what it is, or have they picked up actual Farsi speakers? Actual Arabic speakers?
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    Given all the prior claims here of strict Mexican immigration enforcement and punishment, it is a bit hard to see how Hezbollah or any other terrorist group would infiltrate into Mexico, know enough Spanish to integrate into working gangs, and cover their tracks. Not impossible, but certainly not easy. OTOH, there have long been suspected hideouts by such in some of the uncontrolled areas in South America--- but that is thousands of miles from Mexico's northern border with the US.

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    Add to that the Somali terrror group linked to Al Quaida's recent attack on World Cup fans and the influx of Somali "refugees" here in USA, they're getting closer and closer.
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    If this is true you can bet CNN will not report it. Wouldn't want to upset the White House Messiah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    So what is the story here? Nothing confirmed. There isn't enough in the story to know much of anything. More of the usual fear for fear's sake from a notorious propaganda mill of a cable channel, I think, but am willing to be convinced.

    From the story: "The Department of Homeland Security said it does not have "any credible information" that terrorist groups are operating along America's Southwest border."

    This, if true is interesting,
    from the story: "The congresswoman also noted that officials in Southwestern states have begun noticing tattoos of gang members in prison that are written in Farsi."

    The key of course, is "if true," and also, how widespread, and also, why? Are they simply imprisoning people who have picked up some symbol to use as a tattoo without knowing what it is, or have they picked up actual Farsi speakers? Actual Arabic speakers?
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    Given all the prior claims here of strict Mexican immigration enforcement and punishment, it is a bit hard to see how Hezbollah or any other terrorist group would infiltrate into Mexico, know enough Spanish to integrate into working gangs, and cover their tracks. Not impossible, but certainly not easy. OTOH, there have long been suspected hideouts by such in some of the uncontrolled areas in South America--- but that is thousands of miles from Mexico's northern border with the US.
    You know I'm not saying that this true or false. I'm just starting to wonder what it's going to take to get some acknowledgement and action about the situation on the border.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21bubba View Post
    You know I'm not saying that this true or false. I'm just starting to wonder what it's going to take to get some acknowledgement and action about the situation on the border.
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    My conspiracy instinct says the US Government is allowing extremist or terrorist groups to operate and infiltrate American soil so as to monitor and capture these people. Look at the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and note the infiltration of foreign fighters into these countries. Seems like all the Afghanistan news of operations tend to be on the Afghan/Pakistan border. It's all a little too coincidental for me. Johnny tinfoil out.

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    Well, you know the Mexican gov't.

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    Given all the prior claims here of strict Mexican immigration enforcement and punishment, it is a bit hard to see how Hezbollah or any other terrorist group would infiltrate into Mexico, know enough Spanish to integrate into working gangs, and cover their tracks. Not impossible, but certainly not easy. OTOH, there have long been suspected hideouts by such in some of the uncontrolled areas in South America--- but that is thousands of miles from Mexico's northern border with the US.[/QUOTE]

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    There was no "credible information" about Pearl Harbor either. Actually, I think there was, but it was dismissed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Flight View Post
    If this is true you can bet CNN will not report it. Wouldn't want to upset the White House Messiah.
    I'm a news hound. No one but Fox is reporting this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    I'm a news hound. No one but Fox is reporting this.
    That's because they report the news, not like CNN,CBS ABC or NBC.The last four only report the feel good news.
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    Yep and the government is suing Arizona for doing what the government refuses to do.

    We got a hell of a mess facing this country. And it seems like all the government wants to do is fight against us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    Yep and the government is suing Arizona for doing what the government refuses to do.

    We got a hell of a mess facing this country. And it seems like all the government wants to do is fight against us.
    It's like their welling to sacrifice our safety for politics!
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