Wacky Seattle news reportera again advocating anti-gun

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    Wacky Seattle news reportera again advocating anti-gun

    So this guy today near Bremerton, WA I believe
    made the decision to climb a tree and tie a rope around it.
    So he did that, and talked to himself for three hours.
    A nearby business heard sounds for a couple of hours, went outside to see a guy in the tree talking to himself, or rather having a conversation with himself just as people talk to each other.
    So the business called the cops.
    4 to 5 cops showed up and requested he come down the tree.
    He did not.
    After a bit of time, one cop tased him with the taser gun.
    He still did not come down.
    So cop #2 shot him with the tase gun.
    Still did not come down completely.
    It was at this time when the guy and the cops were arguing back and forth, and the 3rd cop went to tase him, but instead of tase him with the tase gun, shot him with his real gun in the leg.

    The guy said ow, and fell outta the tree. He went to the hospital and is a-okay.

    Now then, the news made a big deal out of this, like cops were bad guys, and that OHH they should have been more careful and what not.

    Yeah mistakes happen, but come on.

    THe guy was hit with two taser guns, and still not coming down or working wiht police for a peaceful arrest.
    In all reality, does it really matter if he got shot in the leg with a real gun????/

    Why does news take the position of the bad guy?

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    Hmmm...

    Seems to me that the police were not justified in using that amount of force for a simple trespassing (if thats what it was ) case.

    The guy wasnt being violent. He was just sitting in atree talking to himself. Although it is odd behaviour, I'll bet there was no law against it.

    Shooting a non violent guy in the leg is use of excessive force. What if it had killed the guy...then what ? There is no way that one would have flown in a court of law and not onlywould the cop have lost his job, but could very well be brought up on other charges.

    They could have either Maced him or used other non lethal means.Shooting someone for an "infraction" is unheard of.

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    That's not anti gun it's more like anti stupidity in the cops case, the guy could be a mental patient and he gets shot over it. The cop should brought up on charges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns
    Hmmm...

    Seems to me that the police were not justified in using that amount of force for a simple trespassing (if thats what it was ) case.

    The guy wasnt being violent. He was just sitting in atree talking to himself. .
    yeah i see your point, but i just cannot agree with the news in saying this police officer was a bad person for making this mistake.
    Yeah, its unfortunate, but if the guy IMO, should have came down outta the tree when the police arrived. That way he wouldn't have been arrested, just get a citiation for disturbance of the peace.

    He was scaring people and children, so something needed to be done.
    They tried to get him down peacefully, the taser was the safest way they could do it.

    And 2 tasers on him, he must have been a strong person.

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    There's got to be more to the Story if it happened just like is listed above and the cop just shot him then yeah sorry he's a bad cop in need of some discipline and some more refresher training

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitznig
    yeah i see your point, but i just cannot agree with the news in saying this police officer was a bad person for making this mistake.
    Yeah, its unfortunate, but if the guy IMO, should have came down outta the tree when the police arrived. That way he wouldn't have been arrested, just get a citiation for disturbance of the peace.

    He was scaring people and children, so something needed to be done.
    They tried to get him down peacefully, the taser was the safest way they could do it.

    And 2 tasers on him, he must have been a strong person.
    How do you make a "mistake" between a taser and your pistol? I've never used a taser but assume that they don't make Glock (etc) looking models. And I didn't realize the cops were allowed to shoot you for scaring people. Now if he was a threat to someone then I could see it.

    A link would be nice.
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    As requested, the rest of the story....
    Confusion Over Handgun Leads To Officer-Involved Shooting

    June 22, 2006

    By KOMO Staff

    A Kitsap County deputy who thought he was firing a Taser was actually holding a real gun and shot a man who was holed up in a tree.

    Confusion Over Handgun Leads To Officer-Involved Shooting


    BREMERTON - Confusion between a handgun and a Taser led to a man being shot in the leg by a sheriff's deputy near Bremerton Thursday afternoon.

    Kitsap County deputies responded to call of a man who was acting strangely in a tree and had spent several hours there in the 200 block of National Avenue South just west of Bremerton at about 11:30 a.m.

    When deputies arrived, they thought the man might have been drunk or mentally ill, so they were trying to get the man out of the tree for his own safety, said sheriff spokesman Scott Wilson.

    Just before 1:30, they decided to use a Taser gun to shock the man into submission, but the Taser did not fire.

    A second deputy drew what he thought was his Taser and fired at the man in the tree. But it turns out, the deputy had drawn his handgun and shot the man in the leg.

    The 25-year-old man was airlifted to Harborview Medical Center in Seattle, where he was expected to make a full recovery.

    The deputy who fired the shot was a 5-year veteran of the force and was placed on administrative leave, which is standard procedure any time an officer fires a weapon in the line of duty.
    So, it seems that the guy wasn't ever tased. The attempted it once, then shot him.
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    How do you mistake a handgun for a taser? If anyone has seen the pistol type tasers there is a clearly visible and tactile difference between that and the real thing. Very negligent on the officers part. Hes lucky he wasnt aiming for COM.
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    If I'm correct, the Taser's I've seen have YELLOW STRIPES on them, to distinguish them from the REAL THING. Sounds like a stupid mistake by the LEO. If I was the guy in the tree, I'd be looking for a good Lawyer. Course, here in Vegas, they just dont shoot one Taser into a BG.... last one afew weeks back, they shot 3, and all hit the button at the same time, sending a total of 150,000 volts into his body.... hmmmm... maybe that is why he DIED??

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitznig
    yeah i see your point, but i just cannot agree with the news in saying this police officer was a bad person for making this mistake.
    Yeah, its unfortunate, but if the guy IMO, should have came down outta the tree when the police arrived. That way he wouldn't have been arrested, just get a citiation for disturbance of the peace.

    He was scaring people and children, so something needed to be done.
    They tried to get him down peacefully, the taser was the safest way they could do it.

    And 2 tasers on him, he must have been a strong person.
    It doesn't appear there was ANY threat or violence on the victim's part.
    Where have we gone to even semi-condone this type of action on the part of the government entity???
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    Read a bit more on this over on the High Road. Supposedly the taser used was carried on the same side as the sidearm and had a grip that was similiar to the gun as well. Not sure what type gun they use there. Also, seems the officer was female.
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    i got my news from a local station that is a channel with two digits , i heard he was tased twice, then the third time was the mistake, kinda interesting how different news companies get different stories.

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    As far as I can see they weren't justified in even using the tasers.

    He wasn't offering any threat of violence, didn't make threats, didn't display a weapon.

    The cop who shot him with a real gun should be charged for certain, and the ones who used a taser probably as well depending on the state's assualt laws.
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    Naturally that makes a difference. Not.

    Quote Originally Posted by TonyW
    Also, seems the officer was female.
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    IMHO a LEO that mistakes a handgun for a taser has absolutely no business carrying a handgun.

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