The Rise & Fall of Empires

The Rise & Fall of Empires

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    The Rise & Fall of Empires

    At about the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution,
    in the year 1787, Alexander Tyler (a Scottish history professor at The
    University of Edinborough) had this to say about \"The Fall of The Athenian
    Republic\" some 2,000 years prior.

    \"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a
    permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until
    the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts
    from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes
    for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury,
    with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose
    fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship.\"

    \"The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning
    of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these
    nations always progressed through the following sequence: From Bondage to
    spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to
    liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to complacency; From
    complacency to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into

    Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul,
    Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the most recent
    Presidential election: Population of counties won by: Gore=127 million
    Bush=143 million Square miles of land won by: Gore=580,000 Bush=2,2427,000
    States won by: Gore=19 Bush=29 Murder rate per 100,000 residents in
    counties won by: Gore=13.2 Bush=2.1

    Professor Olson adds: \"In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won
    was mostly the land owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country.
    Gore\'s territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in
    government-owned tenements and living off government welfare...\"

    Olson believes the U.S. is now somewhere between the \"complacency and
    \"apathy\" phase of Professor Tyler\'s definition of democracy; with some 40
    percent of the nation\'s population already having reached the \"governmental
    dependency\" phase.

    Pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake in
    this Election Year and that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom.

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    That\'s sorta scarry, but sounds like about like we are going and the way history has gone. It may be time to get a little place somewhere way out in the woods and simply rely on your own abilities to survive. I think I could survive unlike many democrats.

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