Israelis Airport Security. A Win. Win.

Israelis Airport Security. A Win. Win.

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    Thumbs up Israelis Airport Security. A Win. Win.

    HATS OFF TO THE ISRAELIS

    Finally — a great alternative to body scanners at airports.

    The Israelis are developing an airport security device that will eliminate the privacy concerns that come with full-body scanners at the airports

    It’s a booth you can step into that will not X-ray you, but will detonate any explosive device you may have on you.

    They see this as a win-win for everyone, with none of this crap about racial profiling. It also would eliminate the costs of a long and expensive trial. Justice would be swift. Case closed.

    You're in the airport terminal and you hear a muffled explosion. Shortly thereafter an announcement comes over the PA system, "Attention standby passengers — we now have a seat available on flight number 791…Shalom."
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    Gotta love those Israeli's.

    They don't jack around.
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    Hehehehe... "Prowler in a Box." I like it.
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    LOL. In all seriousness, they do have the best system:

    * Use seasoned soldiers as security agents
    * A friendly conversation with each passenger. It's actually a series of circular questions which will flush out inconsistencies
    * Oh yes - profile

    I was 'profiled' on my way out and found it to be a very interesting and (would have been, if I were a BG) intimidating experience. I was there for training, but not of a type where I would carry training materials back with me. Yup, that earned me a thorough luggage search along with a pat-down. However, the majority of passengers that didn't fit my profile passed happily and quickly through the security check without any hassle. It was an interesting learning experience, and although it didn't bother me, I wouldn't have been inclined to complain anyway since all of their security agents has Uzi's. Even though I got put through the wringer, I thought it was an excellent system.

    Oh yeah - you should have seen the 'flight attendants' on El Al. My drinks were politely served by a 250lb knuckle-dragging gorilla with one eyebrow.
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    If only our government were truly concerned about safety/security and not individual financial gain.

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    We can learn many lessons from Israel.
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    Holy crap! I cant wait for the airport camera recordings to get leaked of a terrorist getting blown.Wait,what was that...Blew.Blew up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patti View Post
    Gotta love those Israeli's.

    They don't jack around.
    Be nice to see the TSA take a few pages out of their playbook,
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    I don't know if you guys have already seen this VW Polo commercial, but it is very funny. Maybe the Israelis will build something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rson63 View Post
    be nice to see the tsa take a few pages out of their playbook,
    how do we get the tsa in the box?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram25 View Post
    how do we get the tsa in the box?
    Keep talking here. There are undoubtedly at least a couple of influential people who participate.

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    I'd love to see my tax dollars going for one of those. We could even learn a thing or two by bringing some of El Al (sp?) employees over here to teach our screeners a thing or five.
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    I just recalled that when leaving Amsterdam for the US they did have an interesting twist on the standard procedures we had in place till 3 weeks ago.

    Before you got to the point where you put your carry on through X-ray, and either go through the metal detector or a pat-down (back of the hand not groping), there was a table set up. A dignified looking gent in a business suit manned the table and interviewed us. At least there was some human intelligence in the process.

    That said, we accidentally left a 20 ounce bottle of water in a carry on and it went right through X-ray un-noticed. Anyone who thinks things won't get past the scanners is living in a fantasy world, though it would be hard for a terrorist to take the gamble.

    Another time I was ill. It was in LA. I had cleared US Customs at the LAX International terminal and proceeded to American Airlines. I was wearing a Foley catheter and a urine collection bag. No metal. I did not trip the metal detector but was nevertheless pulled aside for a pat down and something of the third degree. Where is the metal in your body, the agent demanded to know. Me: "I don't have any metal in my body." He waved the wand up and down, and kept demanding to know where the metal in my body was. "Have you had any surgery? Do you have any implants? I did not volunteer that I had about 150 cc of piss in a bag on my thigh. He had asked about metal and I answered truthfully. He had me sit down on a chair and proceeded to feel all over my arms, my chest, up and down my right leg. Up the calf of my left leg. And then, he quit. He completely missed the bag on my thigh.

    Consequently, from these two experiences, quite apart from the policy issues, I have very very little faith that any process which relies on human alertness-- reading the X-rays, doing the pat down, watching the nude pics generated by the scanners, is going to be especially successful. It may deter terrorists, but it might not. I don't know what the odds are for getting away with it twice in such different circumstances, but they are sufficiently high that BGs could chance it with the life of some flunky fool if they don't care whether or not he gets caught. And they won't. Because the way we react in panic, even if one is caught we will tear ourselves up throwing more good money after bad.

    So, use dogs for detecting explosives. They don't mess up the way humans do.

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    The Israelis always come out on top, and this invention "the bang box" is the perfect trial, conviction, and punishment...all in one, and instant.
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