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    My Representative's response to my letter regarding TSA

    So I wrote all my reps a while ago before this all hit the fan. I just got a response and thought people here might be interested:

    Amid news reports this week of TSA agents “groping” passengers in the name of security, public outcry against airport screening practices has intensified. In particular, Advanced Imaging Technology (AIT) machines and the new TSA pat-down procedures have resulted in numerous reports of abuse.

    Offended passengers describe being patted down by TSA screeners using the new palms-first, slide-down search technique which has replaced the former back-of-the-hand pat-down. Others report of attractive women being singled out to go through the AIT machines, where TSA screeners are able to peer through their clothing to see detailed images of the naked body.

    In June 2009, the House passed my amendment restricting the use of AIT scanners as a primary screening device at U.S. airports. Support was overwhelming, with more than 300 of my colleagues from both sides of the aisle voting in favor of the amendment permitting the use of the technology only as a secondary screening device.

    The measure, which amended a larger bill that stalled in the Senate, allows the machines to be used when further screening is warranted. If a passenger sets off the metal detector, engages in suspicious behavior, or appears on a watch list, secondary screening would be appropriate. However, until AIT machines are upgraded to protect passenger privacy, I oppose a blanket policy forcing every passenger to submit to an AIT scan.

    Since the time my amendment passed the House, a new and equally troubling issue has arisen. TSA’s new “enhanced” pat-down procedure is an unwarranted invasion of privacy and dignity. This thorough pat-down of the entire body (including chest and groin areas) is the only alternative for those who opt out of AIT scans. In any other situation, this so-called pat down would constitute sexual assault – particularly when done to a minor child. A choice between a virtual strip search and a physical groping is no choice at all.

    Even more frustrating — AIT machines are not even the most effective tool available. Certainly new technology improvements that use digital stick figures rather than the nearly naked image of a person’s body are promising. But such technology is years away from being operational at a large scale. More effective, less invasive options are available now. According to a recent Pentagon report, bomb-sniffing dogs are the most effective bomb-detecting resource currently available. We would be safer with more bomb sniffing dogs at our airports and fewer AIT machines.

    Finally, it's time to get serious about gathering better intelligence to profile terrorists. We don’t have to profile based on religion, race, or ethnicity, but on characteristics and behaviors which repeatedly appear in terrorist profiles. Israel has successfully deployed this strategy for years in the face of more frequent and serious security threats. Through the use of extensive behavioral profiling, Israel manages to have one of the safest and most secure airports in the world. Passengers there suffer far less inconvenience and intrusion than passengers here in the U.S.
    Passengers should not be forced to choose between being physically or verbally violated and being safe. It is possible to secure an airplane without sacrificing privacy. Not only are the measures I propose less invasive, they are also more effective. We can utilize metal detectors, bomb-sniffing dogs, and behavioral profiling to actually increase both liberty and security. I am committed to continue the battle I began more than a year ago. It’s time to reign in the TSA and reject the violation of our rights.

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    OMG.....Is he really advocating the practice of "behavioral profiling"?

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    The following are 22 quotes about enhanced pat downs and TSA groping. They are presented without commentary because they speak for themselves. Please share these quotes as widely as possible. If Americans do not wake up now, when will they ever wake up?….


    #1 Blogger Erin Chase:

    I stood there, an American citizen, a mom traveling with a baby with special needs formula, sexually assaulted by a government official. I began shaking and felt completely violated, abused and assaulted by the TSA agent. I shook for several hours, and woke up the next day shaking.

    #2 ABC News producer Carolyn Durand:

    “The woman who checked me reached her hands inside my underwear and felt her way around.”

    #3 Wendy James Gigliotti:

    “She said ’spread your legs.’ And then she took her full palms and started at my neck and ran all the way down my body, full palms, constant contact. And when she got down to my feet, she was in constant contact from my ankles all the way up to my groin, across my groin, and down the other leg. And she did that twice.”

    #4 Female air traveler Ella Swift:

    “The female officer ran her hand up the inside of my leg to my groin and she did it so hard and so rough she lifted me off my heels.”

    #5 Flight attendant Cathy Bossi:

    “She put her full hand on my breast and said, ‘What is this?’. And I said, ‘It’s my prosthesis because I’ve had breast cancer.’ And she said, ‘Well, you’ll need to show me that’.”

    #6 Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano:

    “I think we all understand the concerns Americans have. It’s something new. Most Americans are not used to a real law enforcement pat-down like that.”

    #7 A 61-year-old bladder cancer survivor:

    “One agent watched as the other used his flat hand to go slowly down my chest. I tried to warn him that he would hit the bag and break the seal on my bag, but he ignored me. Sure enough, the seal was broken and urine started dribbling down my shirt and my leg and into my pants.”

    #8 An anonymous TSA worker:

    “Molester, pervert, disgusting, an embarrassment, creep. These are all words I have heard today at work describing me. …These comments are painful and demoralizing.”

    #9 Robert Colella:

    If some total stranger walked up to you in the street and said “I am either going to see you naked or touch your genitals”, What would be the likelihood of that person walking away from that encounter?

    #10 CNN employee Rosemary Fitzpatrick:

    “As an experienced traveler for work who was in tears for most of the search process, I have never experienced a more traumatic and invasive travel event!”

    #11 Meagan Quinn:

    I will not board an airplane in America until the TSA body scanners are gone. No one is seeing my naked body unless I let them. I will also not settle for being GROPED in public as an alternative.

    #12 A lawsuit filed on behalf of a female college student from Amarillo Texas:

    “As the TSA agent was frisking plaintiff, the agent pulled the plaintiff’s blouse completely down, exposing plaintiffs’ breasts to everyone in the area.”

    #13 Bruce Sargent:

    The sexual humiliation of detainees at Abu Ghraib is not so very different then the sexual humiliation being heaped on American air travelers at airports. Why is TSA torturing us to protect us?

    #14 A 37-year-old Texas woman who had her nipple ring removed with a pair of pliers before she was allowed to pass through security:

    “My experience with TSA was a nightmare I had to endure. No one deserves to be treated this way.”

    #15 A soldier returning from Afghanistan:

    “So we’re in line, going through one at a time. One of our soldiers had his Gerber multi-tool. TSA confiscated it. Kind of ridiculous, but it gets better. A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair of nail clippers. Nail clippers. TSA informs the soldier that they’re going to confiscate his nail clippers.”

    #16 A flight attendant named Megan:

    The agent went up my right leg first and then met my vagina with full force….the same on the other leg with the same result. She then used both of her hands to feel my breasts and squeezing them. At this point I was in shock.

    #17 Jay Glover:

    I spend on average $30K per year on business travel. The airlines get the bulk of this but hotels, car rentals, meals and miscellaneous expenses add up as well. Where I can cut travel, I will. When those associated with airport travel feel the financial pinch just watch how fast this all will change.

    #18 Paul Craig Roberts:

    It is difficult to imagine New Yorkers being porno-screened and sexually groped on crowded subway platforms or showing up an hour or two in advance for clearance for a 15 minute subway ride, but once bureaucrats get the bit in their teeth they take absurdity to its logical conclusion.

    #19 Secretary of State Hillary Clinton when asked if she would like to go through the new pat-downs:

    “Not if I could avoid it. No. I mean, who would?”

    #20 TSA Administrator John Pistole during a Congressional hearing:

    “If you are asking me, am I going to change my policies? No.”

    #21 U.S. Senator Jay Rockefeller to TSA chief John Pistole:

    “I Think You’re Doing A Terrific Job.”

    #22 Congressman Ron Paul:

    I introduced legislation last week that is based on a very simple principle: federal agents should be subject to the same laws as ordinary citizens. If you would face criminal prosecution or a lawsuit for groping someone, exposing them to unwelcome radiation, causing them emotional distress, or violating indecency laws, then TSA agents should similarly face sanctions for their actions.

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    I will not fly and I will not risk subjecting my wife and 13 year old daughter to this physical assault nor the radiation exposure. If I can not get there by Goldwing, car or other mode, I'll just not go. The trip to Hawaii next Spring is canceled unless I can arrange a cruse.

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    The following are 22 quotes about enhanced pat downs and TSA groping. They are presented without commentary because they speak for themselves. Please share these quotes as widely as possible. If Americans do not wake up now, when will they ever wake up?….


    #1 Blogger Erin Chase:

    I stood there, an American citizen, a mom traveling with a baby with special needs formula, sexually assaulted by a government official. I began shaking and felt completely violated, abused and assaulted by the TSA agent. I shook for several hours, and woke up the next day shaking.

    #2 ABC News producer Carolyn Durand:

    “The woman who checked me reached her hands inside my underwear and felt her way around.”

    #3 Wendy James Gigliotti:

    “She said ’spread your legs.’ And then she took her full palms and started at my neck and ran all the way down my body, full palms, constant contact. And when she got down to my feet, she was in constant contact from my ankles all the way up to my groin, across my groin, and down the other leg. And she did that twice.”

    #4 Female air traveler Ella Swift:

    “The female officer ran her hand up the inside of my leg to my groin and she did it so hard and so rough she lifted me off my heels.”

    #5 Flight attendant Cathy Bossi:

    “She put her full hand on my breast and said, ‘What is this?’. And I said, ‘It’s my prosthesis because I’ve had breast cancer.’ And she said, ‘Well, you’ll need to show me that’.”

    #6 Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano:

    “I think we all understand the concerns Americans have. It’s something new. Most Americans are not used to a real law enforcement pat-down like that.”

    #7 A 61-year-old bladder cancer survivor:

    “One agent watched as the other used his flat hand to go slowly down my chest. I tried to warn him that he would hit the bag and break the seal on my bag, but he ignored me. Sure enough, the seal was broken and urine started dribbling down my shirt and my leg and into my pants.”

    #8 An anonymous TSA worker:

    “Molester, pervert, disgusting, an embarrassment, creep. These are all words I have heard today at work describing me. …These comments are painful and demoralizing.”

    #9 Robert Colella:

    If some total stranger walked up to you in the street and said “I am either going to see you naked or touch your genitals”, What would be the likelihood of that person walking away from that encounter?

    #10 CNN employee Rosemary Fitzpatrick:

    “As an experienced traveler for work who was in tears for most of the search process, I have never experienced a more traumatic and invasive travel event!”

    #11 Meagan Quinn:

    I will not board an airplane in America until the TSA body scanners are gone. No one is seeing my naked body unless I let them. I will also not settle for being GROPED in public as an alternative.

    #12 A lawsuit filed on behalf of a female college student from Amarillo Texas:

    “As the TSA agent was frisking plaintiff, the agent pulled the plaintiff’s blouse completely down, exposing plaintiffs’ breasts to everyone in the area.”

    #13 Bruce Sargent:

    The sexual humiliation of detainees at Abu Ghraib is not so very different then the sexual humiliation being heaped on American air travelers at airports. Why is TSA torturing us to protect us?

    #14 A 37-year-old Texas woman who had her nipple ring removed with a pair of pliers before she was allowed to pass through security:

    “My experience with TSA was a nightmare I had to endure. No one deserves to be treated this way.”

    #15 A soldier returning from Afghanistan:

    “So we’re in line, going through one at a time. One of our soldiers had his Gerber multi-tool. TSA confiscated it. Kind of ridiculous, but it gets better. A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair of nail clippers. Nail clippers. TSA informs the soldier that they’re going to confiscate his nail clippers.”

    #16 A flight attendant named Megan:

    The agent went up my right leg first and then met my vagina with full force….the same on the other leg with the same result. She then used both of her hands to feel my breasts and squeezing them. At this point I was in shock.

    #17 Jay Glover:

    I spend on average $30K per year on business travel. The airlines get the bulk of this but hotels, car rentals, meals and miscellaneous expenses add up as well. Where I can cut travel, I will. When those associated with airport travel feel the financial pinch just watch how fast this all will change.

    #18 Paul Craig Roberts:

    It is difficult to imagine New Yorkers being porno-screened and sexually groped on crowded subway platforms or showing up an hour or two in advance for clearance for a 15 minute subway ride, but once bureaucrats get the bit in their teeth they take absurdity to its logical conclusion.

    #19 Secretary of State Hillary Clinton when asked if she would like to go through the new pat-downs:

    “Not if I could avoid it. No. I mean, who would?”

    #20 TSA Administrator John Pistole during a Congressional hearing:

    “If you are asking me, am I going to change my policies? No.”

    #21 U.S. Senator Jay Rockefeller to TSA chief John Pistole:

    “I Think You’re Doing A Terrific Job.”

    #22 Congressman Ron Paul:

    I introduced legislation last week that is based on a very simple principle: federal agents should be subject to the same laws as ordinary citizens. If you would face criminal prosecution or a lawsuit for groping someone, exposing them to unwelcome radiation, causing them emotional distress, or violating indecency laws, then TSA agents should similarly face sanctions for their actions.
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