My mother is Ill, Strange symptoms

My mother is Ill, Strange symptoms

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    I am calling out to all the Dr's on here once again for help.


    She is in her early 60's and has had Diabetes for over 20 years, and battled High Blood Pressure for almost as long. The current condition started about 3 years ago, and it is puzzling a whole list of Dr's here in town.

    So far, a Heart, Kidney, Lung, Ear Nose and Throat doctors have all looked at it and are collectively stumped.

    She has had bouts with the normal problems associated with Diabetes and High Blood Pressure, their seems to be an underlying problem that is forcing these two issues to cause the problems they are.

    Her most obvious signs of problems, her hair has almost completely fallen out, her jaw has shrunk to the point that they had to remove her front teeth.

    They have tested her Thyroid, Kidneys, Heart, Run a ton of Tox screens and Blood test, Stress test and tested for Osteoporoses with no discernable results.

    She has been in Atrielfibulation (spelling) for over 4 months, they were unable to dissolve a Blood clot near her heart that is preventing them from shocking the heart back into a normal rhythm.

    A lot or even all of this may be attributed to the Diabetes and or High Blood Pressure, but there has to be some underlying problem that is causing the hair loss and bone loss. The big kicker is it all has started here in the last several years.

    We are now researching toxin/poison exposure from somewhere. She has lived in the same house for over 30 years, and had the same job for almost 20.

    Any ideas, or possible directions to look for help would be much appreciated.

    I hope no one has gone through this or had a loved one, but if you have, please let me know if the problem was ever discovered.


    Thanks in advance for everything

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    Mike - as an ex osteopath - long ago - I cannot offer too much help - other than this - ''iatrogenic disorders''.

    This means drug induced and - I do not know what all of her meds are and have been but it would high on my list. I am firmly of the belief that on occasions some pharmacologicals can act as binaries - meaning when combined with other chem's - strange things can occur.

    My pharmacology is rusty as all get out and out of date but - I would seriously look into this aspect - seeing as so many opinions have been already sought to no avail.
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    No help here - other than get her to an "Internal Specialist" asap. I am a great believer in that speciality. He might have some ideas.

    OTT, best of luck, and I hope your mom gets better.

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    Unlike Chris, my pharmacology is all but non-existent. I will give you this....you mentioned blood clots. I'm almost certain she's taken Cumadin. I've yet to meet a person who has taken Cumadin and regained health afterwards. Maybe a coincidence, maybe not.

    I have about 5+ examples of people who have gone down hill all the way, Cumadin being one of their meds.
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    No medical advice from me but, I sense your desperation in wanting to find out everything that is wrong with your Mom.
    I sure do hope that you discover what exactly it is that is that is compounding her already known problems.
    I also hope that she gets better soon.

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    I'm an EMT, not a MD, but I agree with the use of many meds acting together to create new symptoms. My grandmother had something similar to this. Your mom's in my prayers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P95Carry
    Mike - as an ex osteopath - long ago - I cannot offer too much help - other than this - ''iatrogenic disorders''.

    This means drug induced and - I do not know what all of her meds are and have been but it would high on my list. I am firmly of the belief that on occasions some pharmacologicals can act as binaries - meaning when combined with other chem's - strange things can occur.

    My pharmacology is rusty as all get out and out of date but - I would seriously look into this aspect - seeing as so many opinions have been already sought to no avail.
    what he said how many different med's is she taking from how many different doctors, I'm guessing at leat 14 am I right? Get down to 1 doctor with 2-3 meds and see what happens next.
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    Mike,

    The toxin / exposure idea is a good one, it would help to know more details, but htings to look for are: Chemicals she works near, or something as common as a high tension power line near her home or workplace.

    Is it possibly a cancer of some kind? Just throwing out ideas here...

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    Thanks everyone for your input. I greatly appreciate everything.

    A blood test this morning showed a "slight" indication of Lupus. Looking at a couple of web-sites, it seems to fit a lot of the strange symptoms. If it turns out to be the case, there is no cure, but at least it we now know and can start on treatments.

    She has a rheumatoid doc coming in to see her in the next couple of days to do some more checks and go over options.

    Thanks again everyone for your help. Untill we are sure of the cause of the problems, and treatments are looking like they are making a positive improvment, we will continue to look into every possibility.

    Chris, as always, a wealth of usefull info, Thanks for explaining the "Doc Speak" for those of us that don't know.
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    The hair and bone loss together are most striking, to me - makes me think heavy-metal exposure(frequently lead, but possibly mercury or similar). Rheumatoid, lupus, sarcoid, etc., can all have some unusual symptoms also though. God bless and good "hunting"!

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    Mike -- here's a story, maybe you can use a part of it.
    About 5 years ago, my wife (she's 42 now) started feeling weak, like her joints would hurt to the point she couldn't do anything. Then her hair started falling out. Doctors, tests, and then a bunch of meds. One doctor even had her on some kind of electronic heart monitor since her blood pressure was going crazy. We really thought she would become an invalid. I guess it was a year of this, maybe more.
    I spent most of a year - all my spare time - trying to find something, since our doctors couldn't. I finally started looking at her test results (she'd had everything) and found that some of the "in range" values for some hormones were in range... but the ranges were just not right (based on my odd research).
    So, we take all this to her doctor, who sends her to a specialist, who says I'm nuts. Fine --- at this point, Lesa can barely do anything and is just a wreck from joint pain and the hair loss (oh, and staggering weight changes back and forth).
    We decide it's enough. I get ahold of a guy in Europe, where apparently medicine is different than here, write down what he says, find a source in South Africa and order Lesa some Estrogen. Yes, it can cause cancer if taken X long without Y times testing....
    Trust me, we were desperate. Lesa takes it three months while dropping all her other meds. ALL the symptoms reverse.
    We go back to our doctor and -- guess what -- his wife has run into the same problem and he tells me that we did fine!
    Not sure what my point is other than don't give up and don't necessarily take test results at face value.
    Good luck. Your mom is in my prayers.
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    We have a former moderator, that works for me, that has Lupus. His got pretty nasty but seems to be somewhat under control after a run of chemotherapy. They actually treat it similar to cancer. He, of course, is not over it by any means but they did get him stabalized. He did have some weird drug interactions along the way. He is now on a maintenance dose of morphine for the pain, which seems to do well.

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