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    Say it with me.

    I pledge allegiance, to the flag,
    of the United States of America.

    And to the Republic, for which it stands,
    One Nation, Under GOD,

    Indivisible, with Liberty,
    And Justice for All.



    History of the pledge.
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    Done Jar - with pride I might add

    BTW I am trying to corece my dear wife into adding an embroidered motif on back of my vests - if she gets it done I'll post a pic. Just my own version of Old Glory with a message.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarhead79
    I pledge allegiance, to the flag,
    of the United States of America.

    And to the Republic, for which it stands,
    One Nation, Under GOD,

    Indivisible, with Liberty,
    And Justice for All.



    History of the pledge.

    I'm old enough to remember when it was simply, "one nation, indivisible,"

    The addition of 'under G-d' was, and is divisive. It ignores that we are one nation with many people, some of whom don't believe in a diety, others of whom believe in their own dieties--which differ from that of the majority.

    The pledge was great in its original form. It is a tad hypocritical in its present form.

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    Done, Sir! Still have it down. Learned in K or 1st.
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    Jar, I'm not complaining because I think you did a great thing reminding us of the pledge. It's just that the punctuation was a little off and it makes the pledge have a little different ring when the pledge is punctuated and recited properly. A third grade teacher in our church corrected my recitation several years ago in Vacation Bible School and I checked her out and discovered she was right. We often pause several places in the pledge where there is no comma or other punctuation and it changes the sound and the meaning slightly when we use the correct punctuation and read it the way it is really written. Below is the official Pledge of Allegiance with proper punctuation.

    I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
    The first break or pause comes after "stands" so the first unbroken part reads continuously from "I" to "stands" -

    "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands,"

    There is then a pause and the next phrase has no breaks. This is where we almost always put a little pause between "nation" and "under God", but the pledge is written with this phrase to be read without pause -

    "one nation under God,"

    Then there is one word followed by another comma -

    "indivisible,"

    The last phrase flows to the end of the pledge without pause or break -

    "with liberty and justice for all."

    Until that third grade teacher showed me the way it was written the pledge meant a lot to me, but when I started saying it the way it was written it started to mean more. The people who wrote the pledge and put it together put the punctuation in specific places in order to make the Pledge of Allegiance mean something in particular. When read or recited properly it means more to me than it does when read or recited the way we often do. I think that we usually say it sort of haphazzardly and it's not supposed to be said that way.
    I hope I haven't offended you by writting this because it is not intended that way. I served my country and love her and I believe that we ought to honor our flag and say the pledge the way it is written. Try it the way it shows below and see if it doesn't take on new meaning to you.

    I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, [pause]
    one nation under God, [pause]
    indivisible, [pause]
    with liberty and justice for all.

    Have a great weekend.
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    Nice to know. I can see where the breaks likely came from. Take anything that will be recited aloud by a group, and it will be broken, up, by, commas, just, so, people, can, keep, up.
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    Good point George - and am glad to say that it was the way I learned it - even this late in life!

    Punctuation and its implementation can totally alter meanings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P95Carry
    Good point George - and am glad to say that it was the way I learned it - even this late in life!

    Punctuation and its implementation can totally alter meanings.
    Chris, as a naturalized citizen you learned it as an adult, and with more respect than we did as 5 and 6 year olds. I'm sure that it was when I became a Boy Scout that I really started to understand what the pledge was really about. By then it was too late to learn it right because we all said it the same way. My third grade teacher friend is the one who leads the pledge in Vacation Bible School and she teaches the children to say it properly. What's funny is to have a parent tell you about the letter that the child brought home because he or she had corrected the teacher in the pledge. That's funny, but what is funnier is hearing the parent say that their note back to the teacher said that the child is right and you teacher are wrong. It is pretty neat to check and find out that the teachers being corrected are a different group each year. Evidently the child's correction and the parents' support of the child forces the teachers to check and then determine to say it properly. Who says you can't teach and old dog or teacher new tricks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarhead79
    I pledge allegiance, to the flag,
    of the United States of America.

    And to the Republic, for which it stands,
    One Nation, Under GOD,

    Indivisible, with Liberty,
    And Justice for All.



    History of the pledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard
    I'm old enough to remember when it was simply, "one nation, indivisible,"
    I just find it irritating that people keep harping on that part, and ignore the fact that our elected officials are using the "liberty and justice for all" part as toilet paper.

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    To me, this is the most beautiful version done so far Red Skelton's Pledge of Allegiance
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    The Pledge of Allegance to the Flag, Our flag, My flag, is of the greatest signifgance. These simple words send chills up my spine every time that I hear and recite them. God grant that Old Glory waves over the Land of the free and the home of the Brave, forever.

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