Makes my blood boil! Vietnam summed up in just a few moments of film!

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    Makes my blood boil! Vietnam summed up in just a few moments of film!

    This little deleted scene from "We were Soldiers" summarized the Wisdom of a Battle Field Commander as opposed to the Blindness of politics and the "expendable" nature of their minds concerning the American Soldier! Westmoreland would gloat in this clip of the dead Vietnamese and then would sweep the Slaughter of Americans and LZ Albany under the Rug!

    YouTube - debriefing

    Thank God the appreciation for the American Soldier has turned around from the days when they spit on our home coming boys. The politics are still the same!

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    Thank you to all who have served before me. If it wasnt for the sacrifices that had been made by men greater than me, I would be scared for the future of my children.....
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    Great movie and great book! The author lives near me in Williamsburg Va. One of the people in the actual battle was a friend of my old boss, I asked him if he saw the movie he said “no I was in the original cast”
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    i like it/however like the other poster ,i was part of the original cast.
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    I was born a year after the Tet Offensive, but I've NEVER understood why some of our boys were treated with such contempt. I understand the social and policital climate during the late 60's/early 70's BUT to blame and misdirect negative feelings to those who risked their lives In Country is something I"ve never been able to grasp. Whether you agree with the politics or not is irrelevant, the SUPPORT of our fighting boys and girls is ALL that matters.

    I personally thnk a guilty conscience was why Hollywood released all of those Vietnam films in the '80's.

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    My gunsmith is one of the soldiers that fought & was wounded in that battle. I also have the first custom 1911 (serial number one!) that he built, as well as an AR that he built for me.
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    I entered service in June of 71' and by that time, Col. Moore was then General Moore and Post Commander of Ft. Ord where I was attending Basic. The graduation book rest on my nightstand with my picture scattered throughout. On the back page are four honor graduates and I was actually number one. It wasn’t until later that I recognized that the post commander was the former Col. Moore from this most notable period and event. Ok, that's my personal contribution to this discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyhulk View Post
    I was born a year after the Tet Offensive, but I've NEVER understood why some of our boys were treated with such contempt. I understand the social and policital climate during the late 60's/early 70's BUT to blame and misdirect negative feelings to those who risked their lives In Country is something I"ve never been able to grasp.
    The political and social climate 1964-1975 was very toxic and there was tremendous anger at many different aspects of government and specific officials.

    It is an unfortunate trait of humans that anger does get misdirected, and back then the military was the most visible [and intrusive] manifestation of government in the lives of people.

    It is actually good that the anger was directed at the military because that later forced the generals to develop a far more professional military with considerably more respect for its people. That's the silver lining in what happened.

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    As one who has "Been there Done that" I believe that the press was the largest enemies we faced. Had it not been for them I truly believe things would have ended much differantly.
    I for one will continue to thank the troops of today everytime I see them. Never again will our best return to to what so many of us faced. GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS.
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    I was against politicians fighting the war, and not the military. Too many politicians and politics involved. It wasn't the police action they kept trying to portray it as, a war is a friggin war... fight it like one. The very thought of fighting based upon the idea of "attrition", is a very miguided tactic as far as I'm concerned. I was very influenced in that by several Generals and Colonels, who thought only a politician could think that was acceptable.

    None of this was the fault of the military or the soldier. The portrayal of soldiers as 'baby killers' and "bad" were to fit the agenda of some of the same progressives that we are now fighting today in America. They still see the military as bad. .... eg. San Fransicso, Princeton, etc.
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    The Communists didn't need to win. They just had to keep from losing. After seeing the American Press' reaction to Tet '68, they figured that out. Our press spun a great battlefield victory into a loss. After that, they knew it was just a matter of time.

    The great shame is that it WAS a "good" war. After we shamefully turned our backs on South Vietnam in 1975, you saw what happened in SE Asia...the slaughter in South Vietnam, and Cambodia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garyacman View Post
    i like it/however like the other poster ,i was part of the original cast.

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    Everyone should read Joe Galloway's Vietnam Story.

    My brother was a Sgt. in the weapons platoon of Company C, 2/7 Cav. He was killed at Ia Drang. The commander of 2/7 Cav, Col. McDade, was the polar opposite of Col. Moore and Col. Tully of the 2/5 Cav. McDade made some serious mistakes on that fateful day. This was most likely McDade's worst mistake:

    Tully, an experienced commander, marched his men out of X-Ray the same way they had arrived: Two companies abreast with artillery fire pounding the brush ahead of them. In less than 2 hours, his men covered the 2 ½ miles to Landing Zone Columbus.

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    As Tully, who had left first, neared his objective at Landing Zone Columbus, he radioed McDade and offered to have his artillery specialist relay the correct coordinates to McDade's artillery man so that McDade's men would have the same protection on the way out of X-Ray. McDade said it wasn't necessary and moved out.

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