Would You Admit to having a Carry Permit on a Job App?
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June 21st, 2011 06:09 PM
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Would You Admit to having a Carry Permit on a Job App?
I saw the strangest thing today on a job app for teachers. It asked if you have a Conceal Carry permit according to Kentucky State Statute.
I have never seen this on any kind of job app before and found it to be extremely curious and odd.
To be fair about it, I'm no expert by any means and its not like I have seen a million teacher job apps but at the same time I thought it was a weird question no matter what occupation it would be for unless you were applying for some sort of defense job. By defense job, I mean something like body guard, deputy, security guard? I doubt, however, that even those jobs would ask that question though.
First, I'd like to ask is it even legal to ask someone a question like this?
Second, I'd like to ask, would you answer it if you were filling out an app for a job?
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June 21st, 2011 06:13 PM
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June 21st, 2011 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I would not answer.
Problem is, HR would equate doing this with answering "yes."
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June 21st, 2011 06:20 PM
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Answer it and be truthful. You'll either get the job or not. The fastest way to lose a job is to lie on the application.
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June 21st, 2011 06:20 PM
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Unless it is required for employment, that dosent even sound like a relevant question and is really none of their buisness.
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June 21st, 2011 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Problem is, HR would equate doing this with answering "yes."
I agree and another thing, would it be illegal if you lied about it? Aren't there serious consequences if you lie on a government document?

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Unless it is required for employment, that dosent even sound like a relevant question and is really none of their buisness.
I agree. I don'ty think its relevant or any of their business as well.

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Answer it and be truthful. You'll either get the job or not. The fastest way to lose a job is to lie on the application.
I agree. If you're going to fill it out, be honest. If you don't want to answer then question then maybe apply at another place.
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June 21st, 2011 06:27 PM
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Aren't there serious consequences if you lie on a government document?
That depends on the job requirements.
If its a job that requires a clearance of any sort, then it could be construed as fraud or even perjury, but it will usually inform you of that somewhere on the application.
Other wise, if you did get hired and they later found out about it, you could be fired.
On the other hand...they might just use it as proof of a background check that was passed.
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June 21st, 2011 06:44 PM
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Legal to ask? Likely, yes.
Illegal to falsly answer? Not likely, but that would be grounds for termination.
I would not answer the question as it's none of their business.
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June 21st, 2011 06:49 PM
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I would answer it truthfully, if they don't want to hire me because of that, screw'em.
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June 21st, 2011 06:49 PM
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Answer honestly. I do not believe a CCW has anything to do with teaching. My question is what happened to make them add the question to the application?
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June 21st, 2011 06:52 PM
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Unless it is required for employment, that dosent even sound like a relevant question and is really none of their buisness.
I agree...I doubt fishing for info is legal.

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June 21st, 2011 08:40 PM
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This is real close to being like doctors asking if there are any guns in the house. I'm not sure why a school would ask but I'd not lie about it. It's too easy in most states to verify concealed permits and it being a school I'd bet on it being even easier to verify.
I'd answer truthfully and let the cards fall where they may.
Hopefully one day gun ownership will loose the stigma and not be a disabling affliction to so many.
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June 21st, 2011 08:49 PM
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It might not be such an bad thing. They may just forego a background check if they know you have a permit...sort of like not having to do a NICS check on a gun if you have a concealed handgun permit. It may be a perfectly harmless question...or it may be that the school admins are rabid antigun fanatics that dont want anyone messing with their brainwashing techniques.
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June 21st, 2011 08:54 PM
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Answer honestly. I do not believe a CCW has anything to do with teaching. My question is what happened to make them add the question to the application?
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Most teachers unions are vehemently , anti-gun.
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June 21st, 2011 09:12 PM
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I dont think I would answer that question, for better or worse. It's none of their business. Also, I am not sure that ccw records are public information and I do not know if it will show up on an employer's background check. If someone knows, please speak up, I would like to know this.
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