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    If you really look at this, it's not about relations between the U.S. and Mexico. It's about relations between the U.S. and any other country. As much as some people would just like to close their eyes and the borders and become isolationists I doubt that's going to ever happen.
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    So Hopyard the question is why have two Congresses not passed the legislation that SCOTUS says is necessary for this treaty to be enforced? We have had the House dominated by both parties at various times and neither one seems inclined to press the issue.
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    A leading British newspaper has today condemned Texans as being barbarians. They seem to think that it is the most backward place in America to live. In contrast, the UK banned the Death Penalty for murder cases back in 1969.

    See:

    The death penalty: A follow-up on barbarism | The Economist


    Are these what typical Texans look like??




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    I'm with the States ......... It's the Oman wanting to be in control, and telling the states what they'll do, and expanding the role of the Fedl Govt in everything. The whole idea of State Sovereignty is to prevent that from happening.

    There was a 30- to 40-pound asphalt rock roughly twice the size of the victim's skull lying partially on the victim's left arm," court documents read. "Blood was underneath this rock. A smaller rock with blood on it was located near the victim's right thigh. There was a gaping hole from the corner of the victim's right eye extending to the center of her head from which blood was oozing. The victim's head was splattered with blood."

    A "bloody and broken" stick roughly 15 inches long with a screw at the end of it was also protruding from the girl's vagina, according to the documents.

    Read more: White House Seeks Delay of Mexican Man's Execution as Supreme Court Mulls Case - FoxNews.com
    I would volunteer to pull the switch on this guy. To hell with the Oman and Mexico.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcp1810 View Post
    So Hopyard the question is why have two Congresses not passed the legislation that SCOTUS says is necessary for this treaty to be enforced? We have had the House dominated by both parties at various times and neither one seems inclined to press the issue.
    That is an important question. Is it that they don't want to enforce the treaty--live up to our obligations? Or, is it just inefficiency and constant campaigning and money raising and they never got to it?

    My opinion is the latter; sloth. Inattentiveness.
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    The Supreme Court has denied a delay of the execution

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/07/07/...html?hpt=hp_t2

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    Quote Originally Posted by LanceORYGUN View Post
    A leading British newspaper has today condemned Texans as being barbarians. They seem to think that it is the most backward place in America to live. In contrast, the UK banned the Death Penalty for murder cases back in 1969.

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    The death penalty: A follow-up on barbarism | The Economist





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    Who gives a damn about what a whiney bunch of limies think. If you kill someone in Texas we'll kill you back!
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    http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/07/07/...html?hpt=hp_t2

    As of 5 p.m. ET, Leal had received his last meal of fried chicken, pico de gallo, tacos, two cokes and a bowl of fried okra. He was in a holding cell outside the death chamber, according to Texas Department of Criminal Justice spokesman Jason Clark.
    And it is now ... 6:03 p.m. CST.

    Execution was to be at 6:00 p.m. CST.

    Unless Perry did something, it's now moot. Many of the Europeans won't assist in extraditing people convicted or charged of crimes here, because we still have the death sentence in places. Yet , you don't even have to commit a crime in some Arab countries and get your head cut off, especially if you are an American. But, do they say much about that ? Nope.
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    Good riddance.
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    Nope, he's getting strapped down right now. So I guess it's a moot point. BTW Hopy, it seems mcp1810's post nullifies your argument.

    From mcp1810:
    There is not only the 2008 opinion.
    From 2006 there is also Sanchez-Llamas v. Oregon 548 U.S.331
    From the syllabus:
    In contrast,Article 36 has nothing to do with searches or interrogations and, indeed, does not guarantee defendants any assistance at all. It secures for foreign nationals only the right to have their consulate informed of their arrest or detention—not to have their consulate intervene, or to have police cease their investigation pending any such notice or intervention. Moreover, the failure to inform a defendant of his Article 36 rights is unlikely, with any frequency, to produce unreliable confessions, see Watkins v. Sowders,449 U. S. 341 , or to give the police any practical advantage in obtaining incriminating evidence, see Elkins v. United States,364 U. S. 206 .

    And Article III Section 2
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    The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;--to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;--to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between two or more States;--between a State and Citizens of another State;10 --between Citizens of different States, --between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.
    It doesn't look like murders and rapists are mentioned above... Are you sure your posts weren't politically motivated???

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    Quote Originally Posted by LanceORYGUN View Post
    A leading British newspaper has today condemned Texans as being barbarians. They seem to think that it is the most backward place in America to live. In contrast, the UK banned the Death Penalty for murder cases back in 1969.
    And backwards is supposed to be a bad thing right?

    It's funny. Part of the reason I moved to this "backwards" part of the U.S. is that people here are so much more polite and well mannered than where I grew up (inside the beltway D.C. suburbs). Having been to the U.K. in the 1980's, the 1990's and 2000's they are more than welcome to keep their progress to themselves.
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    Justice has been done. Except maybe they should beat him to death with a piece of asphalt, while shoving a stick in him.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...l/7643947.html
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    Texas did the right thing. He's dead !
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    Yaaaaay!!!! Wonder if he likes what el diablo has done with the place? God bless Texas!
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    If he really feels that strongly about killing the POS then I think he should be willing to take his place
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