No one doubts this POC guilt and he has been allowed to live for 17 more years than he gave his victim....... Whiskey, Tango , Hotel!
Obama asks for stay of execution in Texas | The Lookout - Yahoo! News
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No one doubts this POC guilt and he has been allowed to live for 17 more years than he gave his victim....... Whiskey, Tango , Hotel!
Obama asks for stay of execution in Texas | The Lookout - Yahoo! News
Last edited by SIXTO; July 6th, 2011 at 06:58 PM. Reason: removed rule 4 violations
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There is something to be said for keeping a nation's agreements with other nations.
We all need the protections afforded by treaty when we are traveling elsewhere.
Get the needle ready. Perry wont stop it.
You mean like the tretay of hidalgo that Mexico is violating daily?
ARTICLE I
There shall be firm and universal peace between the United States of America and the Mexican Republic, and between their respective countries, territories, cities, towns, and people, without exception of places or persons.
Ha...
President Obama is asking the Supreme Court to stay tomorrow's planned execution of a Mexican citizen in Texas, arguing it could do "irreparable harm" to U.S. interests abroad.
Talk about doing irreparable harm to U.S. interests...![]()
"That I cannot do."
"Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks."
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Nice change of subject AZC, but no, you know which treaty because it is specified in the story in post 1.
Our Supremes erred in 2008, when they ruled against President Bush in a related case.
This isn't and should not be a partisan matter. No President of the USA, from either party, can stand by and allow a state government to violate a treaty to which the US is a party. Doing so upends the ability of The State Department to conduct foreign affairs.
Has he read what this guy did to her? Raped her, beat her with a 35 lb piece of asphalt and then raped her with a wooden stick that had a screw protruding out of it. When he dumped her mangled body on the side of the road the investigators found her naked battered body with the stick still shoved in her. Give me a break Obama! I'd drive to Huntsville to celebrate his execution!
"He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." - Leonardo da Vinci
Speaking of treaties. A buddy of mine's Dad was arrested in Mexico on trumpted up charges and held until the family came up with 10k to get him out. My ex FiL fronted the money. They were told if they contacted the state dept (or whoever) it would just make things "messy". Anyone with any knowledge of the border will tell you the last thing you want to have happen to you is to get locked up in Mexico.
"He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." - Leonardo da Vinci
Needle meet arm... oops did it hurt?
"That I cannot do."
"Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks."
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Wait, so you mean a left-leaning politician is not fond of the death penalty? Say it ain't so....
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Just be sure to read the CC handbook section giving the prohibition on carry during these situations.
Yup, the guy probably deserves what he will get. But, doing it to him in violation of treaties does a significant violence to larger interests our nation has than this one man's execution. Ya all do know there is specific language in our US Constitution on the supremacy of treaties. That's why so many here get all worked up about allegations the US might sign some anti-gun UN treaty.
We've got to take our constitution and Federal-State system as it is; or we aren't living under the rule of law.
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I wonder how he'd feel if this dude was going live close to his daughters.
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Come on Sixto. This very same issue has already been litigated one time previously at the Supreme Court (during the prior administration) because there is a significant Federal interest at work here which has nothing to do with the condemned man and is more important than his fate.
How about putting our Constitution and its preservation ahead of petty concerns about revenge or punishment, and how about not sniping at a President who is doing exactly what his predecessor did--- and what he is really required to do--- which is to uphold the Federal interest in this matter against a state's violation of an obligation of the USA to uphold treaties it has signed.
We can't have 50 states making their own foreign policy and each deciding which treaty they will adhere to.
Would we allow Kansas (since it had so many missile silos in the past) to build their own ICBMs in disregard of the various disarmament agreements with the Russians?
"Great is the guilt of an unnecessary war."
John Adams. Second President of the United States.