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    My son sent me this legal update from the MI State Police.

    Any Michigan CCWers who really know Mi laws? A little help here...

    Am I reading this correctly?
    With a CCW from any state recognized by MI, an individual could carry in the listed non-carry places?


    http://www.michigan.gov/documents/ms...2_336854_7.pdf

    Read the following:
    MCL 750.234d provides that it is a 90 day misdemeanor to possess a firearm on the premises of any of the following:
    *A depository financial institution (e.g., bank orcredit union)
    *A church or other place of religious worship
    *A court
    *A theater
    *A sports arena
    *A day care center
    *A hospital
    *An establishment licensed under the LiquorControl Code

    The above section does not apply to any of the following:
    *The owner or a person hired as security (if the firearm is possessed for the purpose of providing security)
    *A peace officer
    *A person with a valid concealed pistol license (CPL) issued by any state
    *A person who possesses on one of the above listed premises with the permission of the owner or owner’s agent

    Officers must be aware of the above exemption for valid CPL holders as many of the citizens who openly carry firearms possess valid CPLs. An individual with a valid CPL may carry a non- concealed firearm in the above listed premises.

    A CPL holder is not required by law to carry a pistol concealed. A CPL holder may carry a pistol concealed or non-concealed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    My son sent me this legal update from the MI State Police.

    Any Michigan CCWers who really know Mi laws? A little help here...

    Am I reading this correctly?
    With a CCW from any state recognized by MI, an individual could carry in the listed non-carry places?


    http://www.michigan.gov/documents/ms...2_336854_7.pdf

    Read the following:
    MCL 750.234d provides that it is a 90 day misdemeanor to possess a firearm on the premises of any of the following:
    *A depository financial institution (e.g., bank orcredit union)
    *A church or other place of religious worship
    *A court
    *A theater
    *A sports arena
    *A day care center
    *A hospital
    *An establishment licensed under the LiquorControl Code

    The above section does not apply to any of the following:
    *The owner or a person hired as security (if the firearm is possessed for the purpose of providing security)
    *A peace officer
    *A person with a valid concealed pistol license (CPL) issued by any state
    *A person who possesses on one of the above listed premises with the permission of the owner or owner’s agent

    Officers must be aware of the above exemption for valid CPL holders as many of the citizens who openly carry firearms possess valid CPLs. An individual with a valid CPL may carry a non- concealed firearm in the above listed premises.

    A CPL holder is not required by law to carry a pistol concealed. A CPL holder may carry a pistol concealed or non-concealed.
    According to what I have read on MCGRO that is correct. Not sure I want to be a test case. It is like I told my mother I am trying to get permission to carry concealed in her church but have been turned down on the first request (former pastor hinted I should try again at a later time) but I can carry openly in church. Of course I would expect to be asked to leave.

    And Michigan recognizes any resident permit.
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    Actually, according to what I am reading, one could conceal carry in church, without asking...who would know?
    I'm stunned about the carry in court.
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    You must have WRITTEN permission from the presiding pastor,Etc,,, before concealing.

    As for openly carrying, in those places, as long as you have a CPL, allegedly it is supposed to be legal, but as has been mentioned, IDK if I wish to be the first guinea pig in that lab experiment.
    I, as of yet, have not heard of anyone doing so.
    Here is an explaination from the same page you linked to,



    MCL 28.425o provides that a person with a valid CPL shall not carry a concealed pistol in a pistol-free zone. First offense is a state civil infraction. The following is a list of the premises (excluding parking lots) included in the statute:

    School or school property, except a parent or legal guardian who is dropping off or picking up a child and the pistol is kept in the vehicle

    Public or private day care center

    Sports arena or stadium

    A bar or tavern where sale and consumption of liquor by the glass is the primary source of income (does not apply to owner or employee of the business).

    Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship, unless authorized by the presiding official

    An entertainment facility that has a seating capacity of 2,500 or more

    A hospital

    A dormitory or classroom of a community college, college, or university

    A casino (R 432.1212, MCL 432.202)
    Note, the above statute applies to CPL holders carrying a concealed pistol. If the CPL holder is carrying a non-concealed pistol, the statute does not apply. As noted above, the unlawful premises listed in MCL 750.234d do not apply to persons with a valid CPL. Therefore, a person with a valid CPL may carry a non-concealed This update is provided for informational purposes only. Officers should contact their local prosecutor for an
    interpretation before applying the information contained in this update.
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    pistol in the areas described in MCL 28.425o and MCL 750.234d

    This update is provided for informational purposes only. Officers should contact their local prosecutor for an
    interpretation before applying the information contained in this update.
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    I am a CPL holder in Michigan and also a Lutheran. In our synod the Pastor is not the controlling authority in the Church, the voting members are. So, at a recent voters meeting a motion was made, seconded and voted unanimously that CPL holders can carry in Church and that motion is now part of the official minutes of the Church. Of course the Pastor was all for it as he has been known to carry while on 'duty'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalman View Post
    I am a CPL holder in Michigan and also a Lutheran. In our synod the Pastor is not the controlling authority in the Church, the voting members are. So, at a recent voters meeting a motion was made, seconded and voted unanimously that CPL holders can carry in Church and that motion is now part of the official minutes of the Church. Of course the Pastor was all for it as he has been known to carry while on 'duty'.
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    Here is the MI state police site that includes info the OP already provided and more. Keep in mind, that besides the "gun free zones" already mentioned, there are also federal buildings/structures where cc is prohibited.

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