S.W.A.T. team kills mental handicapped

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    S.W.A.T. team kills mental handicapped

    Man killed in SWAT standoff near St. Albans* - Breaking News - Charleston Daily Mail - West Virginia News and Sports -

    I wasn't there and I dont know the details but the news media has printed enough to make this look like excessive force to take a mans life when just armed with a knife against a S.W.A.T. team . However if I were attacked by a BG with a knife I'd drop him too.

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    Absolutely agreed. A knife is a deadly weapon. As the above post says I was not there, I do not know the variables, but do wonder why a taser might not have been deployed.

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    Good shoot, unfortunate but justified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sd976 View Post
    Absolutely agreed. A knife is a deadly weapon. As the above post says I was not there, I do not know the variables, but do wonder why a taser might not have been deployed.
    Possibly because using non-lethal force against a lethal threat might not work out well?

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    Unfortunate BUT,mentally handicapped people are usually unpredictable,very strong,and have no general concept of their actions,and the media also was'nt in the room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad Rogers View Post
    Possibly because using non-lethal force against a lethal threat might not work out well?
    I agree wholeheartedly with this. To me tasers are a force that should only be used against an attacker with a weapon less capable of a taser i.e. bare-fisted, kitchen fork, etc.

    If a S.W.A.T. or any other form of LEO or even civilian faces a threat of a deadly weapon, I have no problem with them using a more deadly weapon to defend themselves.
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    We just lost a New Castle County Police Officer due to a knife strike to the neck. If they have a knife, they might just as well have a gun.
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    Is there another article that I'm missing? Because the one I read said that he was mentally unstable, but there was nothing at all to indicate that he was mentally handicapped. Kind of a big difference...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad Rogers View Post
    Possibly because using non-lethal force against a lethal threat might not work out well?
    Sorry Chad, it is our policy, when possible, when using a less lethal device like a taser, to have another officer ready to use lethal force if necessary. Ever been hit with a taser?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTreadOnI View Post
    I agree wholeheartedly with this. To me tasers are a force that should only be used against an attacker with a weapon less capable of a taser i.e. bare-fisted, kitchen fork, etc.

    If a S.W.A.T. or any other form of LEO or even civilian faces a threat of a deadly weapon, I have no problem with them using a more deadly weapon to defend themselves.
    As I said, I have no problem with the shoot, just a comment. Sounds like a good shoot, personally (bearing in miond that I was not there and do not know all the details)I think I would have opted to go to a taser first. Just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sd976 View Post
    As I said, I have no problem with the shoot, just a comment. Sounds like a good shoot, personally (bearing in miond that I was not there and do not know all the details)I think I would have opted to go to a taser first. Just me.
    In an instance involving an assailant with any non projectile weapon, I can see an officer opting for a taser over a firearm, but would not fault that officer if they chose the firearm instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    Nothing to see here, move along.
    Sound like a StormTrooper from Star Wars... Only thing missing was the squelch keying in...
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    Where does it say that the man was "mentally handicapped"? The article only says that he was "mentally unstable": "… A man reported to be mentally unstable had barricaded himself in a bedroom on the second floor and was refusing to communicate with a deputy on the scene …"

    "Mentally handicapped" and "mentally unstable" are two different things.
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