Shoot a deer..hit a horse

Shoot a deer..hit a horse

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    Shoot a deer..hit a horse

    Once again this proves you are responsible for every bullet you fire.

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    Ugh. There's just no excuse.

    When I'm in a stand, I've selected fire lanes on paths that I've previously determined that are safe to shoot in, which includes geometry that will put the shot into the ground.

    I think the deer know this too. They often show up between me and the road.

    I can't fathom letting a shot fly off through the woods.
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    I agree that the hunter is responsible for the horses death. I have a problem with the animal cruelty charge though. I doubt his actions were intentional.

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    Sad story, beautiful horse! Didn't follow the rules.
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    Since the shot was unintentional, I guess if he had shot a kid, he shouldn't be charged either? I'd say he's lucky getting off on the cruelty charge.

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    My guess is that he (the hunter) is going to regret this big time--an "upper level" dressage horse is NOT cheap. I would not be surprised if he was sued for $20,000 or more. If some numbskull shot one of my horses, you can be sure that he would pay for a good replacement horse or we'd see each other in court and then he'd possibly get to pay for the new horse anyway plus the court costs and my attorney fees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaplain Scott View Post
    My guess is that he (the hunter) is going to regret this big time--an "upper level" dressage horse is NOT cheap. I would not be surprised if he was sued for $20,000 or more. If some numbskull shot one of my horses, you can be sure that he would pay for a good replacement horse or we'd see each other in court and then he'd possibly get to pay for the new horse anyway plus the court costs and my attorney fees.
    Agree with this whole heartily.
    My problem is with the animal cruelty charge. If he can be charged with animal cruelty then anyone killing an animal could be too. A person in my rural area was charged with this for killing a sick dog.
    The cruelty charge should be reserved for cases of cruelty and not used as a convenient charge when someone kills an animal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by horse2water View Post
    Since the shot was unintentional, I guess if he had shot a kid, he shouldn't be charged either? I'd say he's lucky getting off on the cruelty charge.
    Huge difference between a person and property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by horse2water View Post
    Since the shot was unintentional, I guess if he had shot a kid, he shouldn't be charged either? I'd say he's lucky getting off on the cruelty charge.
    He didn't say the hunter should not be held responsible, just that it was not an act of cruelty. The cruelty charge may getting off light. It may be be the animal cruelty charge has a more severe punishment than a more accurate charge might. I don't know but I agree that this was not an act of cruelty but one of stupidity and negligence.
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    He'll pay dearly for that horse..... as it's not just the horse, but all of the training it's had, etc.

    I don't buy the story that he was shooting at a deer and it happen to hit the horse, bottom line... he shot across property lines at a distance at a horse... thinking it was a deer.

    Here, your bullet better not enter another person's property, or you are in trouble.
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    Agreed, no excuse for shooting a horse. As for the cruelty charge, negligent and reckless are also culpable states of a crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    Agreed, no excuse for shooting a horse. As for the cruelty charge, negligent and reckless are also culpable states of a crime.
    This is what he should be charged with in my opinion. I have no sympathy with folks who endanger others or their property. It could just have easily been a person standing behind the deer he shot at.

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    I can't say I have every had a round that appeared to exit up away from the ground when shot from a treestand. I'm not buying the story. I'm guessing there was no buck. I wonder if they could get an idea of whether the round was expanded when it entered the horse from hitting something else? I have certain areas of my property where I have had to pass up shots. Lots of houses around me. Most of my shots are down into a creek bed.
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    Regardless of whether his "story" is fabricated or not, his "misplaced" bullet is going to be a very expensive bullet. That is a high-priced mistake, being a well-bred, highly trained warmblood. I doubt he has a liability umbrella. As a personal aside, that does not look like a deer by any stretch, and I don't even hunt.

    Thinking further about this, I have a Chestnut / Liver gelding, my wife a Sorrel gelding. When we ride into the Nat'l Forest this time of year, we and the boys are decked out in florescent yellow, orange and green ribbons and tapes that flutter and really catch the light and catch the eye. I just don't want to be shot off of, or have my boy shot out from under me. I might consider some tapes when they are out to pasture too, based on this story.


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    This will be expensive. Aiken is Polo country. The flat, sandy soil & popularity with celebrities going back to Teddy Roosevelt, has made it a retreat for the obscenely wealthy. A lot of the Kentucky 'blue bloods' have migrated here, and the owner looks like one of them.
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