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Justice, like beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Freedom doesn't come free. It is bought and paid for by the lives and blood of our men and women in uniform.
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I'll make it easier for you.
If you don't take bad people that hurt other people off the street, they are likely to continue to do so. It is also unlikely that they are willing to be taken off the street - that's where the imprisonment thing comes into play. Once you've done that, it's just a matter of whether you are going to let them live or not.
BTW, I'm still not convinced that you're not just trolling to be annoying, and regret that I bothered to engage you. Out.
'Clinging to my guns and religion
Did he get what he deserved? Probably, if he was indeed guilty.
Did he receive justice? No way. In our society we have laws on how justice is handed out. If we knowingly allow this to happen we are just as guilty as the person who does the killing.
For those cheering on the cell mate for killing this man. Would you also approve of everyone in society killing anyone who has been convicted of a crime? Would you approve of someone killing a parolee?
I think I'd call it Karmic Retribution...
What comes around, goes around...He got his come up-ins
Don"t let stupid be your skill set....
Hobbit lives matter....
Never be ashamed of a scar. It simply means, that you were stronger than whatever tried to hurt you......
I would make prison environments self sustaining, or at leas as close to it as possible. This means that they would need to raise their own food and make their own clothing. Would they have modern conveniences, such as heat, lights, electricity? Maybe. Again, it would be an environment much like existed 150 or so yeas ago. In this environment, the objective would be start with hard, honest labor. Along with that labor would come the rewards. For those that show some promise of rehabilitation, and demonstrate responsibility would come an extension of privileges. At first, these could be simple things, such as a modern convenience, time to watch TV, or any number of endless possibilities. Ultimately, if they didn't learn how to behave and be responsible individuals at home, they will need to be taught. They will need to learn to act with respect and to be productive, have an opportunity to get some education and perhaps once they have shown themselves to be capable, be re-introduced to society at large. At this point, there should also be a safety and support system to help them re-integrate. Ideally, the program that they have been in would go a long way towards that. Hopefully most would earn their way out. Some, however, will not.
The current system does nothing but teach them how to brutalize, torture, rape, and commit worse crimes. I am amazed that it hasn't created an army of hardended domestic terrorists.
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martyr is a fancy name for crappy fighter
You have never lived until you have almost died. For those that have fought for it, life has a special flavor the protected will never know
Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of Rura Penthe.Where would you put this correctional Utopia? NIMBY....not without an open tag to shoot anyone who escapes/attempts to escape
That is a good question. I clearly don't have all the answers, how to enclose and secure such a compound is one of many. The prison system is a problem. It is a problem that is growing due to changes in our current society. It is a problem so large that it is going to take more than one person on a forum to solve. However, the current system in the USA has changed little since before who knows when, hundreds of years at least. We can, and should, do better. For a large percentage of the prison population, simply locking them up makes things worse, not better. Make them learn discipline, self control, and the value of hard work. If they succeed, we have all gained. If they fail, little has been lost.
Last edited by noway2; December 5th, 2011 at 04:54 AM. Reason: fixed quote tag
This wasn't "justice", it was "murder" as charged by the proper authorities.
"Never take your own revenge, beloved, but leave room for the wrath of God, for it is written, "VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY," says the Lord." Romans 12:19