Logic 101

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    Logic 101

    This was passed to me from a friend.

    An interesting letter in the Australian Shooter Magazine this week:

    "If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in the
    Iraq Theater of operations during the past 22 months, and a total of 2112
    deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.

    The firearm death rate in Washington, DC is 80.6 per 100,000 for the same
    period. That means you are about 33 per cent more likely to be shot
    and killed in the US capital which has some of the strictest gun control
    laws in the U..S., than you are in Iraq .

    Conclusion: The U.S. should pull out of Washington.
    Train like your life depends on it, because it does.

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    If all the 2112 deaths were due to firearms, the death rate would be 1320 per 100k, significantly higher than the 80.6/100k reported for DC.

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    i believe the forumula is

    number of deaths
    _______________ x 100,000 or 2112 / 160000 x 100,000 = 62.5...... less than DC
    total population


    But i'm just using math.
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    Considering a new forum.....
    Last edited by Okemo; December 7th, 2011 at 10:42 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okemo View Post
    Mike, I think you were calculating in the 22 months and that's not part of the formula, it's just the timeframe that is being considered.
    Not according to your story. "The firearm death rate in Washington, DC is 80.6 per 100,000 for the same period."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okemo View Post
    i believe the forumula is

    number of deaths
    _______________ x 100,000 or 2112 / 160000 x 100,000 = 62.5...... less than DC
    total population


    But i'm just using math.
    Strange math. Your total population is 160k. 2112 of them were killed. For every 100k of that population, 1320 people were killed.

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    Or, I can just let these folks explain it to you.Death rate comparison to Iraq and Washington DC-Fiction!

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    First of all Mike it wasn't my story. Secondly, I suppose it's how you read the story or how it's written. I did find this online that backs up the math.

    Formula


    In other words, the death RATE is what we're talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okemo View Post
    First of all Mike it wasn't my story. Secondly, I suppose it's how you read the story or how it's written. I did find this online that backs up the math.

    Formula


    In other words, the death RATE is what we're talking about.
    That formula, applied to the numbers you provided in the OP, results in a death rate of 1,320 per 100,000.

    (heck of a first post huh. Hi guys!)


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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcheung View Post
    That formula, applied to the numbers you provided in the OP, results in a death rate of 1,320 per 100,000.

    (heck of a first post huh. Hi guys!)


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    I give up. Wasn't my post, wasn't my story but the RATE is correct with the info given. Guess I'm done with this little battle.... and welcome to the forum bd.
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    I'd give up too. A guy with the name of Cheung probably knows a little more about math than I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneeyedwilly View Post
    I'd give up too. A guy with the name of Cheung probably knows a little more about math than I do.
    Well played willy....well played.
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    I didn't realize racism was still en vogue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcheung View Post
    I didn't realize racism was still en vogue.


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    and endearing second post as well. Once again. Welcome aboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcheung View Post
    I didn't realize racism was still en vogue.


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    Oh come on now... lighten up. I didn't mean to offend. Racism isn't en vogue, but a sense of humor is. Its not racism if its true, plus it was a compliment.

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