This is a discussion on RIP Joe Paterno within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Legacy? Legand? Not in my opinion. In my opinion, him, along with that whole program has been a disgrace. Below is from the article of ...
Legacy? Legand? Not in my opinion. In my opinion, him, along with that whole program has been a disgrace.
Below is from the article of Joepa's interview:
Even though Joe Paterno has not been charged with any crime and doesn’t expect to be. He does not admit, "I wish I had done more."
Source: The Washington Post
Stop whining and go do something that makes a difference!
If you think that I may be talking to you, then I am.
"Just blame Sixto"
Died in shame. Could have done more. No exceptions.
"Integrity is doing the right thing when no one is looking."
In this case, because of joe pa's lack of integrity, his legacy will not be the number of games won, but how many children were molested, raped and sodomized when he could have done something to stop it.
Gotta agree with Retsupt99 on this one.................Joe admitted he didn't do enough........ie. a confession IMO......soory this is the way it went south for him and his family, but these are kids involved here......thought more of Joe than that.
It's tough to judge someone over ten years of hearsay. One cannot help but show sympathy for those children, but that is not what this thread is about. Its about the death of a man. Perhaps we could express some sympathies for the family left behind.
I agree with Retsupt. There are minimum legal responsibilities then there are moral and ethical responsibilities. Paterno met the first, but sadly ignored the second. As a 4-H Volunteer and a part-time employee of Ohio State University working with kids, I am well aware of my legal responsibilities in reporting suspected child abuse or molestation. But as a person whose passion it is working with kids, I also feel my moral and ethical responsibilities go above and beyond my legal responsibilities. Granted, Sandusky was not working for Joe at the time of the alleged abuses, but if he knew and only reported and did nothing to stop the actions or follow up to ensure that 1) the actions were stopped immediately by any means available, 2) the actions were not covered up, and 3) the perpetrator prosecuted then he is partially to blame for the consequences.
Joe Paterno was, arguably, the most powerful, and certainly the most influential man at Penn State. He could have and should have done more. While I have a certain degree of respect for him as a coach and a motivator, I have nothing but disdain for him as a man, and as a person to whom the lives of young men were entrusted.
I understand those for whom Paterno was a hero. And I feel a great degree of sympathy for those whom he let down. But I have a big problem canonizing a man who turned his back on a wretched situation at the institution at which he had so much power. He does not, in my opinion, deserve icon status.
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups"
Well, I guess we all have our own opinions of the man. My opinion is that he was an old man in over his head.
"To my mind it is wholly irresponsible to go into the world incapable of preventing violence, injury, crime, and death. How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessness. How unnatural. How cheap. How cowardly. How pathetic." Ted Nugent
I think we can all agree Joepa was a great coach,BUT,this was a cover-up from the top down to protect the University,not a Penn fan,but I hate that this will ruin his legacy.
I have some empathy for the man considering his age and the generation he comes from, but not a lot of sympathy.
What we are talking about is child rape and that is a horrible and insidious crime. This has a lot of similarities in my opinion to the scandal which has rocked the Catholic church.
We have a terrible crime against vulnerable children and people in position of authority who are from an older generation and who likely do not fully understand the magnitude of the crime and therefore somewhat lacking in the veracity and diligence of how they pursue their responsibilities in reporting the crimes. There's no excuse for it, but I can see how it transpired.
Again, I have some empathy for how he got caught in the middle of it, but not a lot of sympathy. It's sad and tragic all the way around and a sad stain on his legacy. But that stain is nowhere near the scars left on the victims for the rest of their lives.
"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, prey on those who without one, would surely perish."
Joe seemed like a NICE guy,,,,, to NICE,,,,, he was conflicted between his loyalty
to the school, his friend, and himself. He simply made a bad MISTAKE according
to his own words. He just passed to some else and washed his hands of the whole
thing. This will FOREVER tarnish his career. Fact is that he was aware of child abuse
and did nothing to stop it. His own words says that.
Paterno told The Post. “And to be frank with you I don’t know that it would have
done any good, because I never heard of, of, rape and a man. So I just did what
I thought was best. I talked to people that I thought would be, if there was a
problem, that would be following up on it.”
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain."
- Roy Batty