What's wrong with Detroit? (Moved to "Off Topic")

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    Since this topic is not the focus of this website, I've moved it here to "Off Topic".

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    As horrific as the murder rate in Detroit is--for 2010 the official number is 34.5 murders per 100,000--Baltimore has 34.8, St. Louis 40.5 and 'The Big Easy"--New Orleans--by differing acccounts, but consistently listed as having one of the top five highest murder rates on planet EARTH, comes in with 49.1 murders per 100,000 people--more than most basically governmentless Middle Eastern, African cities and the narcotic cartel controlled cities in Mexico, South and Central America.

    Of course, in Detroit--as with most of these cities, there are neighborhoods--general areas, where the murder rate is actually much, much higher. Believe me, I lived in Detroit and have family there and there are some real 'no man's zones' and sometimes they are just a few miles from gated communities with private security and huge mansions. They aslo have fairly new, rather luxe pro baseball and football stadiums right downtown and attendance is good. Detroit's a real paradox, but no doubt there are parts that look like some weird scene out of a metro USA based "Apocalypse Now" movie set, with whole neighborhoods abandoned and overgrown, waiting to be razed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkhmAsylm View Post
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    City leaders of the past who placed all their bets on the automotive manufacturing industry, luring many job seekers from around the country. Once the big three started uprooting, they left all those down on their luck folks to their own devices while the politicians moved on.
    The formula for disaster arguably began in the early 1940's, when Detroit became America's Arsenal For Democracy, attracting literally hundreds of thousands of workers to fill defense industry jobs. The boom created by such numbers, and its subsequent collapse at war's end, left what we see today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
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    I speek only for myself as i do not know you and am sure that you do also. :)It has been my observation that when someone does not like the message they tend to beat up the messenger. Politicians and the media are masters of this as it is the quick way of averting attention from the truth and generating headlines that appeal to the masses.
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    What's wrong with Detroit?

    1. Too much government redistribution of wealth.
    2. Too much government regulation and intrusion.
    3. Too much of a sense of entitlement.
    4. Too much tolerance of crime.
    5. Too much union control of industry for too many years.
    6. Too many stupid voters.
    1974 to 1993.......Coleman Young, Coleman Young, and Coleman Young. He was the instigator, the impetus, the corrupt, and Supreme Leader of the City that Fell to Ruin. He threw gasoline on everything bad, and was expert at using the actions above to strengthen his fiefdom. That may be a simple answer, but you can trace most ills back to his rule. If he did not create the tragedy, his actions exacerbated it.

    This pretty much sums up what ails Detroit

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    Quote Originally Posted by dV8r View Post
    I speek only for myself as i do not know you and am sure that you do also. :)It has been my observation that when someone does not like the message they tend to beat up the messenger. Politicians and the media are masters of this as it is the quick way of averting attention from the truth and generating headlines that appeal to the masses.
    Similarly, please do not confuse my disagreement with your message as an attack on, or a dislike of you personally. It has been my observation that those who speak from an evangelical bent tend to confuse their personal belief system with some greater revealed truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toorop View Post
    What is "Terminal Diversity?" I have never heard that term before. Could you explain it for me.

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    Terminal diversity is a phrase that I coined to give name to the effort of the libs to dillute the American traditional way of life (non-assimulation by various ethnic groups etc). As with terminal velocity, if a parachute isn't deployed soon, death is a certainty.
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    This isnt about what you beleive or dont beleive, this is about Detroit.

    Keep it on topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    This isnt about what you beleive or dont beleive, this is about Detroit.

    Keep it on topic.
    I thought it to be a discussion thread. In the discussion of what is wrong with Detroit ones beliefs (ie, opinions) as an answer to the original question will be subjective based upon the individuals knowledge and experience. If you are looking for mere facts then perhaps simply a recitation of facts from the bureau of statistics would have sufficed. But, even that could be subjective depending on the facts chosen.
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    I thought it to be a discussion thread. In the discussion of what is wrong with Detroit ones beliefs (ie, opinions) as an answer to the original question will be subjective ased upon the individuals knowledge and experience. If you are looking for mere facts then perhaps simply a recitation of facts from the bureau of statistics would have sufficed. But, even that could be subjective depending on the facts chosen.
    Opinions is based on many things...faith or lack of it being one of them. Since this isn't a religious discussion, further comments about beliefs or disbeliefs would detract from the subject and eventually degrade into a fruitless discussion in which feelings would get hurt and people would get ticked off and no good would come from it. Look at it as a preemptive strike.
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    I'm just wondering whats that city going to be like in 20-25 years?? You have to wonder if these people reproduce and the numbers increase it's no longer a city problem.. Maybe we should put a fence up now and hang a sign telling the future generations of the social experiment which failed miserably.

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    What's wrong with Detroit?

    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    This isnt about what you beleive or dont beleive, this is about Detroit.Keep it on topic.
    Back on topic, what's wrong with Detroit and other cities is that too many people no longer believe the "truth" of what is wrong with Detriot. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dV8r View Post
    Back on topic, what's wrong with Detroit and other cities is that too many people no longer believe the "truth" of what is wrong with Detriot. :)
    Not sure I follow. Since the religious aspects have already been addressed by a moderator, you must be referring to something else.
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    Who brought up religion, not I.

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    Not sure I follow. Since the religious aspects have already been addressed by a moderator, you must be referring to something else.
    It is impossible to have a thorough discussion where the 1st. A is disallowed. So tell us why "is" Detroit the way it is? I'll be leaving this thread to those who can live outside of the truth. Sorry to leave you hanging....Do your own research. You'll figure it out, hope it's not too late. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dV8r View Post
    It is impossible to have a thorough discussion where the 1st. A is disallowed. So tell us why "is" Detroit the way it is? I'll be leaving this thread to those who can live outside of the truth. Sorry to leave you hanging....Do your own research. You'll figure it out, hope it's not too late. :)
    Yes, it is. I have reached my own conclusions already, so nothing really to ponder.
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