What have you really lost?

[tacman605]

While talking to Harryball last night an interesting question was raised that neither one of us could come up with a good answer. There are always comments and banter about losing rights and so on so I pose this question.........

What constitutional right or rights have you individually lost if any?

He or I either one could not think of one thing, on a constitutional level, that either one of us have lost or could no longer do because that individual right was taken away. I am not talking about additional taxes, restrictions or laws I am talking about a right you had and now you can no longer can exercise that right.

So let the tinfoil alliance put their collective thinking caps on and come up with some answers.

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[Badey]

I cannot use my rights of free speech or assembly within 100 feet of the entrance of the Supreme Court (among other places)... does that count?

[Harryball]

Like T-man posted we could come up with nothing. I still have the right to be stupid if I want.

I put this example out there for you. You feel like getting drunk, you go to the store and by a 12 pack come home drink it and find you want more. Hop in the vehicle, go to the same store by another 12 and make it back home. You still have your rights, granted the above mentioned act was stupid, but I could still do it.

[Mike1956]

I am prohibited from fully participating in my religion, a prohibition based solely upon my racial make-up. Only enrolled members of federally recognized American Indian tribes are legally able to possess eagle feathers, an integral part of the Sundance religion.

[Badey]

Like T-man posted we could come up with nothing. I still have the right to be stupid if I want.

I put this example out there for you. You feel like getting drunk, you go to the store and by a 12 pack come home drink it and find you want more. Hop in the vehicle, go to the same store by another 12 and make it back home. You still have your rights, granted the above mentioned act was stupid, but I could still do it.

I think you may be confusing "right" with "ability." You do not have the right to drive while intoxicated, which is why, if caught, you would be prosecuted for it. You are, however, still "able" to do it. Similarly, I do not have the right to shoot at people's tires who are tailgating me, but I do have the ability to do so....

[Harryball]

I am prohibited from fully participating in my religion, a prohibition based solely upon my racial make-up. Only enrolled members of federally recognized American Indian tribes are legally able to possess eagle feathers, an integral part of the Sundance religion.

So some can still do it? If so, then its still a practice that can be done. Is it the religion part or the fish and game part for the restrictions...

[Harryball]

I think you may be confusing "right" with "ability." You do not have the right to drive while intoxicated, which is why, if caught, you would be prosecuted for it. You are, however, still "able" to do it. Similarly, I do not have the right to shoot at people's tires who are tailgating me, but I do have the ability to do so....

The right to be free??? Life, liberty all that good stuff....

[DontTreadOnI]

Second amendment. To carry concealed I had to get a permit, have to pay more to own a SBR, suppressor, full auto...

Shall not be infringed, to me, does not mean the gooberment can pick and choose, as long as they don't ban everything.

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[Mike1956]

So some can still do it? If so, then its still a practice that can be done. Is it the religion part or the fish and game part for the restrictions...

In response to the original question, I am prohibited by federal law from fully practicing my religion.

[chiefjason]

Somebody from CA needs to chime in. Lots of them completely lost their right to BEAR arms recently. Impossible to get a permit to conceal, and illegal to open carry.

Otherwise, how loosely are we defining this. I may not have lost the right, but rights have been changed that have an impact on me. NFA 1934, GCA 1968, FOPA 1986 come to mind.

[43hertz]

I used to be able to sell goods produced on my own land without interference from the FDA.

Can't sell whole milk directly to my neighbor anymore. Lots of other examples in agri-commerce.

[Seth]

CA is the poster child for violating constitutional rights, the "safe' handgun roster, aw ban, open carry ban, horrible ccw process, the list goes on and on.

[rammerjammer]

When we can all be detained indefinetly by the Fed if accused of an act of terrorism I would consider that a lost right. In many instances the Patriot Act did away with habeas corpus.

But in general most of us haven't lost anything tangible. I read forums where people claim that America is being destroyed, we're losing all our rights and that we're turning socialist (we already are). Yet there is never much to back up the claims.

[Jdp751]

We used to be able to buy firearms from mail order.. We used to be able to have a pickup truck with a gun rack in the back window and not get stopped by police for that.. We used to be able to go onto an airplane with a pocket knife or just a jar of jelly.. We used to live in a society where gun ownership was not suppressed.... After 911 I think they formed the patriot act which took some of our rights away also but I cannot remember which ones... We used to have a government that actually did things for us... And we used to have jobs in this country but from what I I'm told we no longer want those jobs so now only Mexicans have them.. Ask the people what they lost when Katrina hit them and they took all of their weapons away.. I cannot remember when it was declared about martial law, that when they declare martial law you lose every single right as a United States citizen.. We used to be a 100% self sufficient country now we depend on other countries for almost everything.. Somebody please help me out here.. We used to have a constitution that was solid and everybody knew what it meant but today all these people are interpreting it quite differently.. We used to have a very large military and a small government now we have a small military and a large government and the U N who is supposed to help us out with military needs.. We used to have Christmas trees in some public places but now it seems to offend some people..

[oneshot]

The Feds mostly, but some states and cities as well continually believe it is their game, their ball, and they have their mind made up that they will move the line of scrimmage, erase as much of the goalpost as they can, ignore the instant replay, and ultimately call the game when there is nary a cloud in the sky, and thereby obfuscate the laws and try to change the definition of them.

DHS comes to mind.
I felt pretty safe before they came along.
Now all of a sudden we have cameras going up at every corner/intersection of America, in the name of security.Huh???
They don't give me any security. What they do is give me the impression the government doesn't trust us.
Just because we haven't lost "A" right, or all of our rights, doesn't mean the day is not coming.

Here is what GB2 said,,
In an August 5, 2002 speech, President Bush said: "We're fighting ... to secure freedom in the homeland."[13] Prior to the creation of DHS, American presidents had referred to the U.S. as "the nation" or "the republic", and to its internal policies as "domestic".[14] Also unprecedented was the use, from 2002, of the phrase "the homeland" by White House spokespeople.[14] The choice of this phrase raised questions regarding the self-image of the USA.[15]

taken from here; United States Department of Homeland Security - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I thought we already had freedom.
Mark my words,,Ominous clouds are on the horizon for the people of this country and if we can't get people with the power to right the ship, we are on a crash course for socialism, and worse.