Is our government getting ready For a Civil War
This is a discussion on Is our government getting ready For a Civil War within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by oakchas
Thanks for the insult... Beyond an eighth grade education... Thanks Hop...
So, what your telling me is that, say, oh about ...
May 8th, 2012 12:46 PM
The comment was not aimed at "You" as an individual. It was a generic "you" meaning most of us including myself until very recently *when I began reading history and biography of that era avidly*
Originally Posted by oakchas
know far too little of our own history because we have few opportunities or reason to learn it beyond the 8th grade view.
If it is any consolation, I once got into a a really really bad situation with my son by using the word "you" in that generic
fashion in a letter.
If the Union is once severed, the line of separation will grow wider and wider, and the controversies which are now debated and settled in the halls of legislation will then be tried in fields of battle and determined by the sword.
May 8th, 2012 12:46 PM
May 8th, 2012 12:52 PM
Isn't that the way it is with most people? They all want limited Government until they are in that Government. The natural craving for more power by members of government does not in any way mean that the original idea of limited power was not the correct one. It only proves that power is addictive.
Jefferson represented the 180 opposite view until he was Prez and decided he had the opportunity to buy Louisiana without Congressional consent. At that point, his "strict constructionist limited view of The Executive Power" went out the window.
May 8th, 2012 01:24 PM
Originally Posted by mlr1m
And Hop, I know you were using the generic "you" and laud you the reading of founding era histories...
That said... Please, keep in mind... those "histories" are nothing more than "his-stories." And, usually the winners get to write them. There is some objectivity in later histories of a bygone era, to be sure... but to a great degree, the author controls what he writes and what he wishes to convey... There are many historical fictions that tell the story of the past as well or better than historical non-fictions... Mind you, I did say "story of the past."
As far as the Federalist/Anti-federalist published arguments... therein you can see that a few were trying to control the dialogue of the masses... through their writings. "Fomenting discord?" Certainly. And what but that, is a "conspiracy"... becoming a "movement", growing into a "revolution"?
And in today's world with our (ahem) educated youth, the seed of discord could grow mightily... if they weren't so sedentary and uncaring, and unable to discern facts though reasoning.... But that's a different discussion...
Politicians, take note of Colorado 9/10/2013.
"You are elected to service, not power.
Your job is to "serve us" not to lord power over us."
May 8th, 2012 01:39 PM
Q: Is our government getting ready for civil war?
A:No they have to many other problems. They have a manual that tells them what to do. (in case of civil war break glass)
May 8th, 2012 01:54 PM
makes me wonder too as we hear storys like this
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