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    What in the world is going on in the world. ?

    Is the world falling apart before our very eyes? Killings, robberies and crime at every turn, immoral activities approved by our people and lawmakers, earthquakes in the news about everyday, people uprisings and talking about another unrest in the far east now. Geeze! What else could happen?
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    Scripture has been telling us this is going to happen. It will get worse before it gets better. And it will get better, that is the promise.
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    Actually there is absolutely nothing happening now that has not happened worse and repeatedly in the past.
    It all just depends on how far back you're willing to look.
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    I don't believe we are at "End Times", but we do see what a out of control PC and Entitlement attitude has done.

    There have to be some harsh and hard changes done on many levels to turn this around. Granted we see more and more quickly than in the past, but I still think we see more of what this "liberal/progressive" state of mind has gotten us.

    All we can do is vote more realistic people into office and keep ourselves and our families safe with logical self defense.

    This is not going to be a "Koum Ba Ya" ideal society...never was...never will be. BUT we do need to get many issues under control and "cleaned up". Time for the hard decisions to be made and DONE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit51 View Post
    I don't believe we are at "End Times", but we do see what a out of control PC and Entitlement attitude has done.

    There have to be some harsh and hard changes done on many levels to turn this around. Granted we see more and more quickly than in the past, but I still think we see more of what this "liberal/progressive" state of mind has gotten us.

    All we can do is vote more realistic people into office and keep ourselves and our families safe with logical self defense.

    This is not going to be a "Koum Ba Ya" ideal society...never was...never will be. BUT we do need to get many issues under control and "cleaned up". Time for the hard decisions to be made and DONE.
    Your observation here helps my outlook. Perhaps we are at the brink of what we'll tolerate of the PC and entitlement policies and are ready for a correction. We will see with upcoming elections.
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    A coworker once explained to me the ideology that says that society is governed by four boxes and that the use of these boxes comes in order: soap box, ballot box, jury box, ammo box. We've already had examples of where the ballot box has gone to the jury. I can't help but think that as partisan positions on various issues become increasingly rigid that we're too far from the fourth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    Actually there is absolutely nothing happening now that has not happened worse and repeatedly in the past.
    It all just depends on how far back you're willing to look.
    I'm sure Adam and Eve said the same thing about two of their sons...
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    There was a lot of bad stuff that happened in the 70s. Some bad some wierd. Then the 80s came along with the Hairbands and everthing was ok.
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    It's just a cycle, we're actually on the brink of another Dark Age. We've stopped learning, and we're putting all knowledge onto non-permanent storage devices, The batteries will die eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBuckwheat View Post
    There was a lot of bad stuff that happened in the 70s. Some bad some wierd. Then the 80s came along with the Hairbands and everthing was ok.
    I don't know what you had in the 80s, but we had in our Metro Jamaican Drug wars, women killing their babies, men getting into shoot outs with GF and killing several of her children, serial killer dumping disposible women by the Hwys., mothers shooting sons and more. There was not reprieve from violence and senseless crime from the 70s, it just didn't make National News 24/7 (sometimes didn't even make Local News at 6pm ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard58 View Post
    What in the world is going on in the world?
    Is the world falling apart before our very eyes? Killings, robberies and crime at every turn, immoral activities approved by our people and lawmakers, earthquakes in the news about everyday, people uprisings and talking about another unrest in the far east now. Geeze! What else could happen?
    Here's one thing that's wrong with the world:

    The crazy judges let mutts like LINKY>>>this<<<LINKY out on "lifetime probation, 5 years of supervised probation, and one year in "Hope House."

    What is Hope House?

    from an article about it:

    The Hope House is not a lock-up facility. The are no armed guards or prison bars. What residents experience during their court-ordered stays is a high level of supervision and treatment centered around finding work and observing rules.

    The facility houses three types of residents. Parole work releases, OWI continuums and probationers. Residents are not under regular parole/probation supervision while at the facility.

    Parole work releases are offenders whom the state parole board deems ready to leave prison, but whom require a structured environment before being released on full parole. The parole board generally assigns work releases to a minimum four-month stay while Hope House usually imposes a six-month maximum stay.

    Those in the OWI continuum program are either second- or third-time (felony-level) offenders of Operating While Intoxicated laws. They undergo programming specific to substance abuse. Their general stay is six months.

    Probationers assigned to the Hope House are deemed to be of high-risk for recidivism and in need of structure beyond a probation officer’s supervision. This is part of the “intermediate sanctions continuum” that provides an alternative to revocation to state prison. Probationers are court-ordered for up to a year’s stay, but may be transitioned back into the community earlier depending on progress in their program.
    It's a freakin hotel... For a 20 year old who sexually used 2 different 15 year old girls. He's back behind bars now... on a paltry $7500.00 (who hoo ...cash only...) bond. This boy is lucky that I ain't the father of one of those two girls... And frankly, so's the judge...

    That's just PART of What in the world is going on in the world. It's just a small portion of it... The rest of it is much, much crazier...
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    Syris, Aleppo - 1138
    Earthquake kills 230,000 people


    Japan, 1181

    A famine wipes out at least 100,000 people.



    Egypt and Syria, 1201
    The deadliest earthquake in history hit the eastern Mediterranean in July 1201. Approximately 1.1 million people were killed, mostly in Egypt and Syria. This makes it close to one of the ten worst natural disasters in recorded history.



    Netherlands, 1228
    Estimate: 100,000 lives lost from the flooding after some dykes broke.

    Netherlands, 1287

    The Zuider Zee flooded after a seawall callapsed. At least 50,000 people were killed in Holland and more than 500 in England as a result.

    China, 1290

    Earthquake takes at least 100,000 people.


    Most of Europe and beyond, 1347-1350
    Approximately 25 million lost their lives through the "Black Death" - the bubonic plague. Between 25 and 33% of the entire population of Europe at that time, plus millions in Asia and North Africa lost their lives.




    China, 1556
    Earthquake in Shansi, China kills about 830,000


    China, 1642
    Flooding takes about 300,000 lives.


    Spain, 1649

    Plague takes about 80,000 lives in Seville.



    Western Hemisphere, mostly 16th - 18th centuries
    Untold millions of lives of American Indians were lost through the various sicknesses brought over from Europe (to which they had no previous exposure or resistance.) It's very difficult to get figures on this that are not politically infected one way or another (very high or very low).





    1556
    The second deadliest earthquake was in the Chinese province of Shaanzion February 2, 1556. It killed 830,000 people.


    England, 1665

    More than 100,000 lives were taken by the plague, London was worst hit.


    Japan, 1730
    Earthquake took the lives of some 137,000 people.


    India
    , 1737
    First it was thought to be an earthquake, but more recent scientific studies have re-classified it as a typhoon - this tragedy killed some 300,000 in Calcutta.


    Portugal
    , 1755
    Over 100,000 lost their lives through "the Lisbon earthquake" and resulting tsunami.

    India, 1769
    About ten million people lost their lives from a famine in Bengal.




    North America, 1775-82

    Smallpox takes around 130,000 lives.


    Iran, 1780

    As many as 200,000 were killed in an earthquake near Tabriz.


    Iceland, 1783

    a volcanic eruption (that included the largest basalt flow in recorded history) poisoned the island's pastures and caused the starvation of about 25% of the population - 30,000+.



    Indonesia
    , 1815
    MountTambora (volcano) on Sumbawa Island released about 50 cubic kilometers of magma over at least 500,000 square kilometers of Indonesia and the JavaSea. That eruption and the resulting tsunami took at least 10,000 lives. But the famine and disease that followed took another 82,000 lives - total: over 90,000.


    Japan
    , 1826
    Tsunami kills about 27,000.

    Ireland, 1845 - 48
    "Potato Famine" takes at least a million lives.


    France, Germany, America, etc., 1870

    approximately 500,000 lives lost as a result of smallpox.



    China, 1876 - 1879
    The deadliest drought in recorded history was in China between 1876 and 1879. Rivers were dry, so most crops and livestock died. There was no food production in a 1-million km2 area of 9 provinces. The drought caused the death of an estimated nine million people.




    Java and Sumatra, 1883
    Krakatoa, a small volcano on an uninhabited island between Sumatra and Java (Indonesia), erupted with such fury it could be heard in Australia nearly 5,000 kilometers away. The tsunami that followed took about 50,000 lives.


    China
    , 1887
    The worst flood in "modern history" happened in China in 1887. The Yellow River overflowed, causing the death of about 900,000 people. (Some reports say it was a million that perished.)


    Japan, 1896
    About 28,000 people lost their lives from a Tsunami


    Caribbean
    , 1902
    Martinique, a small French colony in the Caribbean, has a volcano "Mont Pelee" which unleashed its fury and wiped out the town of St. Pierre. Only one survivor - pictured on right: a prisoner in a basement cell. (There's a good chance he got his life right with God before that day was over!) But there were actually two others who also survived. Around 30,000 people were killed.


    Italy
    , 1908
    An earthquake of 7.2 magnitude and the tidal wave that resulted, destroyed several southernmost Italian cities and towns and approximately 123,000 people.


    China, 1911
    Yangtze River flood - approx: 100,000 deaths.


    Italy
    , 1915
    Avezzano, Italy - 7.5 earthquake takes nearly 30,000 lives.


    World-wide, 1918 - 19
    Influenza pandemic takes somewhere between 35 million and 75 million lives (some reports estimate around a hundred million, but those can't be confirmed) - at least 16 million people died in India alone. This is clearly the worst disaster - at least in the last thousand years.




    China
    , 1920
    In the north China there was a drought that caused 20 million victims and took at least 500,00 lives.


    China, Gansu - 1920
    Gansu, China is hit with an earthquake measuring 8.6 and kills around 200,000 people.


    Japan
    , 1923
    A third of Tokyois destroyed and much of Yokohamain an 8.3 earthquake which between 140,000 and 200,000 people.


    China
    , 1927
    An earthquake 7.9 - hit Nanshan City and took about 200,000 people.


    China, 1931

    A flood on the Changjiang River took at least 145,000 people (other estimates go over a million, but we have not confirmed that).


    China
    , 1932
    Another earthquake, this one northwest Gansu Province, killed about 70,000 people.

    China, 1935
    Another Yellow River flood "caused 27 counties inundated and 3.4 million victims". How many actual lives were killed we don't know. If you have facts, let us hear from you




    China, 1933

    Another Changjiang River flood takes the lives of at least 140,000 people.

    Pakistan
    , 1935
    About 30,000 lost their lives in a 7.5 earthquake.


    Chile, 1939
    Some 28,000 people were killed from an 8.3 earthquake in Chile.


    China, 1939
    A flood takes about 200,000 lives.


    Turkey
    , 1939
    More than 32,000 lives were lost from a 7.9 quake in Erzican Province.


    China, 1942 - 1943
    A drought in the Henan province took the lives of more than a million people.


    Turkmenistan (USSR), 1948
    A 7.3 earthquake took over 110,000 lives.


    India, 1950
    Around 30,000 people lost their lives in a quake of 8.6 magnitude in Assam, India.


    World-wide, 1957
    At least a hundred thousand people (some reports say over a million) died from the "Asian Flu" - about 70,000 in the USA alone.


    China, 1958 - 61
    As many as 20 million people died in this famine. *

    * We received the following response to this post
    Sirs: I would ask that you consider re-characterizing the 20-30 million who died in China during the period 1959-61 as a political blunder rather than a famine. Famines are typically understood to be the result of diminished food production due to weather or other natural disasters. This was not the case in China. Food production was for the most part normal during this period. What changed was the desire of local cadre wanting to look good and reporting increased food production following Mao's politics of "right" practices. Mao's government simply took their share of the harvest, 50%. But since the reported harvest was in fact inflated, what resulted was the entire production being shipped to Beijing. This more accurately could be labeled Mao's Holocaust.




    Peru
    , 1970
    A 7.9 earthquake and resulting landslides killed about 66,000 in Northern Peru.


    19 - Bangladesh, 1970
    In 1970, a cyclone and related floods killed about 500,000 people. With winds of up to 230 km/h, the cyclone crashed into the heavily populated coastal area of the Bay of Bengal, where several river deltas normally provide fertile land. The terrible winds produced massive waves, which wiped out many entire villages. Millions of people were left homeless in this country that is one of the most densely populated and one of the poorest in the world.


    Vietnam, 1971
    Red River flood flood leaves about 100,000 dead.

    China, Tangshan - 1976
    The worst earthquake damage in modern times was in northeast China in 1976. It was July 28 when a massive quake, measuring 8.3 on the Richter scale, shook the industrial mining city of Tangshan. Officially 255,000 people died, and another 164,000 were severely injured. But others (unofficial, but perhaps more accurate?) estimate that about 655,000 perished. Some ninety per cent of the buildings were destroyed. It took at least ten years and massive investment to rebuild the city.


    Africa, 1981 - 1984
    Rivers and lakes dried up from the drought that had incredible impact on twenty African nations. During one season about 20,000 were starving to death EACH MONTH. 150 million were facing starvation if help didn't come right away. People from around the world began to respond to this crisis - but for hundreds of thousands of people, it was too late. . When combined with other relatively recent African famines, the figure is well over 1,000,000)


    Colombia, 1985
    Volcano Nevado Del Ruiz claimed the lives of at least 25,000 - mostly from the mudflow which resulted from the volcanic eruption.

    Armenia, 1988
    An earthquake measuring 6.9 on the Richter scale devastated Armenia in 1988. At that time Armenia was a republic of the Soviet Union. The town of Spitak was destroyed and it took the lives of all of its residents. In Leninakan, Armenia's second largest city, eighty per cent of the buildings collapsed, and over 100,000 people perished there.

    Iran, 1990
    a 7.7 earthquake in northwest Iran killed at least 50,000 people.

    Bangladesh, 1991
    Flooding again took its toll on this nation. About 139,000 lost their lives.

    North Korea, 1995-98
    Over 3 million are said to have died from famine and floods in North Korea.


    West Africa, 1996
    About 25,000 loose their lives from a meningitis outbreak.

    Iran, 2003 Earthquake in Bam, Iran, officially kills 26,271 people.


    12 South Asian Nations, 2004 - 2005
    Earthquake of 9.0 and the resulting tsunami creates one of the world's worst disasters. It does major damage to: Indonesia, India, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Malaysia, Myanmar, the Maldives, Somalia, Tanzania, Seychelles, Bangladesh, and Andaman. Deaths: Between 235,000 and 285,000.




    South Asia, 2005
    Earthquake, primarily affecting Pakistan, but also India and Afghanistan. Current figures: over 50,000 dead.


    Haiti, 2010
    Earthquake- still counting. Most estimates now exceed 220,000 dead.

    1 - Worldwide, every year
    Malaria takes 2 to 5 million lives. *




    Iceland, 1707
    Smallpox killed more than 15,000 people (one-third of the population).


    Caribbean
    , 1780
    "The Great Hurricane" as it was known, hit the Caribbean in October 1780. It is still the most deadly Western Hemisphere hurricane on record. It killed some 22,000 people on the islands of Martinique, St. Eustatius, and Barbados...


    England, France, Egypt..., 1831-32
    Cholera epidemic spreads from Cairo and hits both London and Paris very hard, leaving about 25,000 dead.


    USA
    , 1871
    A massive forest fire destroyed much of Wisconsin: 9 towns and 1,500 people.


    Turkey, 1999

    the earthquake that struck in Golcuk killing about 17,000 people.

    San Francisco
    , 1906
    The most famous -- and deadliest -- earthquake to strike the United States was the San Francisco earthquake of 1906. The estimation was 8.3 on the Richter scale, but worse than the shaking itself, the earthquake caused fires that burned out of control for three days. Two thirds of the city burned down, and totally wiped out the downtown business district. Tens of thousands of people lost their homes and fled the city and an estimated 3000 people died.

    American Midwest, eight year drought
    During the Depression the American and Canadian Midwest experienced an eight-year drought. It ruined once-fertile soil, kicked up tremendous dust storms and caused thousands of deaths. The lack of rain left huge areas of farmland without any water. The topsoil was taken up by the wind, creating huge dark clouds of dust that seemed to turn day into night. People died of starvation and lung diseases caused by breathing in the dust-filled air. Thousands of farmers had to declare bankruptcy. 350,000 people deserted the region. It was the worst drought in North American history.

    China, 1991
    China suffered another massive flood from exceptionally heavy rains. At one point, 40 centimeters fell in two days. The worst of the flooding occurred at Tai Hu, a lake at the mouth of the Yangtze River. This important industrial and agricultural region was devastated. The economic loss and the human toll were costly - over 2,000 people died. In one province, a million homes were swept away. Overall, the flood seriously impacted the lives of over 200 million people.

    Florida and Louisiana, 1992
    The most costly hurricane in American history was Andrew. 58 people were killed and so many homes and shops were destroyed, the total cost was at least $27 billion. In terms of dollars, this ranks as the worst natural disaster.

    USA and Canada, 1993
    Because of the media it became known as "The Storm of the Century" - from snow blizzards of arctic air clashing with the warm air from the gulf of Mexico, combined with strong winds and freezing temperatures, it essentially paralyzed the Eastern part of the U.S. Roofs collapsed, power lines fell, all major airports closed down... Summary of the damages: 243 deaths, $3 billion.

    Global, about 3200 BC

    "Considerable evidence exists for a major global paleo-climate event that happened around 3000 B.C. It appears to have affected sea-level changes, vegetation and much surface chemistry. There is speculation that this event is in fact the Biblical Flood of the Old testament. Scientists naturally avoid equating 'natural' disasters with 'Acts of God', but in this case the time coincidence is very suggestive." -

    * "We had malaria defeated in the sixties thanks to DDT. Since Rachel Carson's book "Silent Spring" inspired the DDT ban, 60-70 million have died of malaria. It's hard to find anyone who cares more about a couple million deaths a year from malaria than about 4 birth defects a year that the use of DDT might cause." Arthur Henry

    Disasters of over 100,000 Deaths Number of Deaths
    Disaster Type
    1 - Worldwide, every year
    2 to 5 million a year
    Malaria
    2 - Western Hemisphere, mostly 16th - 18th centuries unknown millions European Sicknesses
    3 - Africa, 1981 - 1984 unknown millions Drought
    4 - World-wide, 1918 - 19 35 to 100 million
    Influenza pandemic
    5 - Europeand beyond, 1347-1350 25 million
    Bubonic plague
    6 - China, 1958 - 61 20 million
    Famine
    7 - India, 1769 10 million
    Famine
    8 - China, 1876 - 1879 9 million
    Drought
    9 - North Korea, 1995-98 3 million + Famine and Floods
    10 - China, 1935 2 million + ? Flood
    11 - Egypt and Syria, 1201 1.1 million
    Earthquake
    12 - Ireland, 1845 - 48 1 million +
    Famine
    13 - China, 1942 - 1943 1 million +
    Drought
    14 - China, 1887 900,000
    Flood
    15 - China, 1556 830,000
    Earthquake
    16 - China, 1976 600,000
    Earthquake
    17 - China, 1920 500,000 +
    Drought
    18 - France, Germany, America, etc., 1870 500,000
    Smallpox
    19 - Bangladesh, 1970 500,000
    Floods
    20 - World-wide, 1957 400,000 ? "Asian Flu"
    21 - India, 1737 300,000
    Typhoon
    22 - China, 1642 300,000
    Flood
    23 - South Asia, 2004
    283,106
    Tsunami / Earthquake
    24 - Syria, Aleppo, 1138
    230,000
    Earthquake
    25 - Iran, 1780 200,000
    Earthquake
    26 - China, 1920 200,000
    Earthquake
    27 - China, 1927 200,000
    Earthquake
    28 - China, 1939 200,000
    Flood
    29 - Japan, 1923 170,000
    Earthquake
    30 - China, 1931 150,000 +
    Flood
    31 - China, 1933 140,000
    Flood
    32 - Bangladesh, 1991
    139,000
    Earthquake
    33 - Japan, 1730 137,000
    Earthquake
    34 - North America, 1775-82
    130,000
    Smallpox
    35 - Italy, 1908 123,000
    Earthquake
    36 - Turkmensistan (USSR), 1948
    110,000
    Earthquake
    37 - Armenia, 1988
    100,000 +
    Earthquake
    38 - Japan
    100,000 +
    Famine
    39 - China, 1290
    100,000 +
    Earthquake
    40 - Netherlands, 1228
    100,000 +
    Flooding from broken dykes
    41 - England, 1665
    100,000 +
    Plague
    42 - Portugal, 1775
    100,000 +
    Tsunami / Earthquake
    43 - Vietnam, 1971
    100,000 +
    Flood
    44 - Haiti, 2010 100,000 + Earthquake













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    I have some thoughts on it.

    Overcrowding of humans on the planet. There are just too may humans and competition for survival is at an all time high. There were times when many humans for various reasons, disease, mental defect or accident never lived to maturity to eventually breed. We have found ways to save all kinds of humans, some of them before modern miracle technology would have just died out. That puts pressure on societies to feed, clothe and care for an absolutely huge number of people. Not advocating going back to the days of only living to age 40, but the life expectancy is much longer.

    Civilization is not learning how to be civil, the more "civilized" we get. We have become tolerant to things that a few years ago would have never been acceptable. That will introduce abhorrent behaviour into the group and encourage violence, murder and mayhem. Plus, the consequences for such behaviour is basically a slap on the wrist or going the whole nine yards to try to save or "rehabilitate" someone who is permenantly broken.

    As for the "frequency" of natural disasters, see point #1. Much of the overcrowding of the planet leads to the ones without a lot of means to locate in areas prone to flood, earthquakes, tornadoes and hurricanes. It's just the "nature" of the beast.

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    Thanks for the update QK... Now I know what has gone on in the world Since 1138.
    It could be worse.
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