Ticks and Lyme!!

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    I use Avon's Skin So Soft. It has worked for years for me. Plus gives me that baby soft skin.

    My coon hound has Lymes. Got it before we got her. Vet says it shouldn't be a huge problem for her. Isn't like she hunts for anything but comfort. I use Frontline for my dogs. I am really sold on it having used it for years now.

    Hubby doesn't really use anything.....bugs don't like him. I do and that is all that counts.
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    There is some evidence now that it really never leaves the body once you do get it. Keep your immune system built up.
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    Had lyme disease a few years ago. Luckily caught it soon as rashes were forming. Still have a huge scar from where it must have been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTreadOnI View Post
    Pulled a huge one off of my yellow lab the other day. He must have been on there a few days because he was completely engorged. I had also heard that putting a hot object on them could stress them out and make them throw up under the skin also, is that true?
    If the tick was really huge, then it's not a deer tick, but a common wood tick, which is not a known carrier of Lyme disease. The deer ticks are tiny, and even when engorged they are barely half the size of a wood tick. Not that you want either attached to you... but it's good to know the difference. Lyme disease (and the treatment) is no laughing matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    There is some evidence now that it really never leaves the body once you do get it. Keep your immune system built up.
    That is what the vet said about the dog. She will always have it....we just have to watch her for the signs of it becoming active.
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    Frontline really works but, the thing about it is that you put it on your pet and then it gets absorbed through the skin and into the bloodstream. Then fleas and ticks actually have to bite your pet in order to feed on the blood that then kills them.

    Since my dog has compromised immune problems I have been having great luck with Cedarcide. It contains cedar oil and fleas, ticks and all insects absolutely hate it. so it acts as a natural repellent to prevent insects from biting in the first place. It's a great product. I believe that it can be used directly on pets and pet bedding etc.

    So folks before you head out into TICK country spray yourself down with Cedarcide. Ticks can't stand it.


    On ebay they also sell pure cedar oil but, it is too strong to be used directly on skin. Human and animal.
    But, you can make a shampoo using some mixed into regular baby shampoo.
    I forget the exact (20% I Think) percentages because I mixed up a LOT of it quite some time ago.
    The formula is on the Texas Cedar Oil site.
    I bought a large bottle to keep some stored for survival apps.
    I bought it on ebay and then used their formula percentages and it works great.
    Somebody was pretty smart because insects never attack cedar wood and they had an Ahh Haa moment and came up with the stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsnake View Post


    NOW, where did this menace come from? Our good ol' government. It seems that after WWII we snatched a German Biologist and set him up in a lab off the shore of Deleware. They said "Build us a disease, boy". and he came up with Lymes. They infected ticks and introduce them to deer to see what would happen. Well, the deer did just fine, thank you, but were marvelous hosts. Some got away and people started getting sick.

    Research Lymes and Plum Island.

    And so, again, we owe a great debt to our own wonderful government.
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    Oh well, so much for my toxic reputation...

    Last night I pulled a deer tick off the top of my head. He pulled right out, head and all. In the southeast, if you walk through the woods right now, you can pretty much rest assured that you'll come out with some hitch-hikers.
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    Interestingly ticks can not spread lyme disease until AFTER they bite a host that is a carrier/infected with it to begin with. So freshy hatched ticks (early in spring) are not dangerous, it is the 2nd and subsequent feedings that make them dangerous.

    Also - if you find a small tick (not big 1/4 inchers or bigger after eating), keep a watch for a "bullseye" rash. This is bullseye rash is an indication that you may have been infected.

    Ticks are only second to the digusting factor for me - Bed Bugs holding the top position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsnake View Post
    .....set him up in a lab off the shore of Deleware.....
    To be exact, Plum Island is off the tip of Long Island, NY.

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    We use cedar chips as bedding in the dog house outdoors. A misting of the dog door to the house with Listerine (eucalyptus oil) keeps the flies and mosquitoes from piggybacking on the dogs when they come in. Frontline is nasty stuff. A little garlic in their food seems to keep the ticks off. Diatomaceous Earth sprinkled around the house and edges of the garden and property keeps ticks and bugs out, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTreadOnI View Post
    Pulled a huge one off of my yellow lab the other day. He must have been on there a few days because he was completely engorged. I had also heard that putting a hot object on them could stress them out and make them throw up under the skin also, is that true?
    Ther is more unadulterated CRAP about Lyme disease than you can imagine. BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT YOUR SOURCES WHEN YOU LOOK FOR LYME INFORMATION.
    It also helps to use common sense. Tuck your pants into your socks when in the woods. Use a good DEET spray on clothes and body. Check your self once or twice a day. Be careful if you have domestic animals that roam outside.

    Do not expect a tick to back into a hot cigarette tip. Even stupid bugs are smarter than that! Getting them to back out voluntarily before they are finished feeding is nearly impossible. Trying to pull them off without leaving the head behind is also nearly impossible. I practiced in bucolic upstate NY for 35 years and have seen hundreds of tics embedded.
    A little injection of lidocaine around the tick head and a tiny slice with the scalpel and the bugger is gone. Then, a single dose of 200 mg of doxycycline by mouth and you are done.

    There are loads of unscrupulous physicians who are making a career out of treating anxious, depressed people for "chronic lyme disease." There are NO data showing that this actually exists and the expensive intravenous treatments that these charlatans are pushing have only one effect = to fatten their wallets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsnake View Post
    NOW, where did this menace come from? Our good ol' government. It seems that after WWII we snatched a German Biologist and set him up in a lab off the shore of Deleware. They said "Build us a disease, boy". and he came up with Lymes. They infected ticks and introduce them to deer to see what would happen. Well, the deer did just fine, thank you, but were marvelous hosts. Some got away and people started getting sick.

    And so, again, we owe a great debt to our own wonderful government.
    OMG! First of all it isn't "lymes" it is lyme disease named after the first area, near Old Lyme, CT., where a cluster of cases were found. It is caused by a spirochete (the kind of bacterium that causes syphillis) and there is NO WAY that it could have been engineered in a lab, not today and certainly not 60 years ago. This kind of 'research' is what I expect from Fox News, not someone who is trusted to carry a gun. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorBob View Post
    Ther is more unadulterated CRAP about Lyme disease than you can imagine. BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT YOUR SOURCES WHEN YOU LOOK FOR LYME INFORMATION.
    It also helps to use common sense. Tuck your pants into your socks when in the woods. Use a good DEET spray on clothes and body. Check your self once or twice a day. Be careful if you have domestic animals that roam outside.

    Do not expect a tick to back into a hot cigarette tip. Even stupid bugs are smarter than that! Getting them to back out voluntarily before they are finished feeding is nearly impossible. Trying to pull them off without leaving the head behind is also nearly impossible. I practiced in bucolic upstate NY for 35 years and have seen hundreds of tics embedded.
    A little injection of lidocaine around the tick head and a tiny slice with the scalpel and the bugger is gone. Then, a single dose of 200 mg of doxycycline by mouth and you are done.

    There are loads of unscrupulous physicians who are making a career out of treating anxious, depressed people for "chronic lyme disease." There are NO data showing that this actually exists and the expensive intravenous treatments that these charlatans are pushing have only one effect = to fatten their wallets.
    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorBob View Post
    OMG! First of all it isn't "lymes" it is lyme disease named after the first area, near Old Lyme, CT., where a cluster of cases were found. It is caused by a spirochete (the kind of bacterium that causes syphillis) and there is NO WAY that it could have been engineered in a lab, not today and certainly not 60 years ago. This kind of 'research' is what I expect from Fox News, not someone who is trusted to carry a gun. .
    Thanks doc... Don't think I'll opt for the scalpel routine either... but I suppose if one were really stuck in there....

    I do appreciate your explaining this to us in a reasonable fashion... but we all know syphilis was "engineered" too, this Lime disease is just a genetic mutation....


    See what I did there?

    Seriously, thanks... people get all in a wad over the littlest things...
    It could be worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    ... but we all know syphilis was "engineered" too...
    ????

    The exact origin of syphilis is unknown. Of two primary hypotheses, one proposes syphilis was carried to Europe by the returning crewmen from Christopher Columbus's voyage to the Americas, the other proposes syphilis existed in Europe previously, but went unrecognized. These are referred to as the "Columbian" and "pre-Columbian" hypotheses, respectively. The Columbian hypothesis is best supported by the available evidence

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    Quote Originally Posted by highvoltage View Post
    ????
    "See what I did there?"


    Should I let off on the drag a bit... or do you like to fight? just don't go under the boat... 'kay?
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