One of the other reasons NRA annoys me

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJK View Post
    Lighten up and don't take it so personally. The NRA is the biggest game in town when it comes to fighting for firearm ownership rights recognized and enshrined in the second amendment. Do you know of any other gun ownership organization which has fielded a speaker at the United Nations General Assembly? Or that has been as effective at helping pass CCW laws in 49 states? Or...the list goes on and on.

    We are in a fierce battle to preserve our 2A rights...24/7/365. If you DO NOT support the NRA then in my opinion you are not in that fight, but rather choose to enjoy 2A rights preserved and paid for by others.

    Please consider setting aside your personal issues with the NRA or try to make changes within as a member in good standing...in the long run what's important is that we have your support.

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    I would much rather they fielded a plan and executed it to do away with the UN all together. Ah...states ccw. That's a great one. You mean how the smaller states rights groups fight long and hard for it and actually succeed(because they've done the legwork with all of the local states reps in person and then right as it's about to pass the NRA jumps in and says look at me! Look what I did... That NRA?
    "My God David, We're a Civilized society."

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    I'm not thrilled by the marketing ploys of the NRA.
    I'm not overly thrilled with anyone's "marketing tactics" these days....but at least I know what I'm buying will work for me when I support the NRA. Marketing tactics are for products.....would you consider our rights products for trade at this point? Don't be ashamed.......I figure many do consider our rights subject to trade and barter these days. You don't have to become a martyr.......just simply stand alone from the crowd. Who's actually "thrilled" about anything these days? Tax return? Gas prices going down? Socialist dictator dying in some foreign land? What DO you want to be "thrilled" about these days? Same sex marriages in another state becoming legal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ram Rod View Post
    Who's actually "thrilled" about anything these days?
    I'm thrilled about my recent M&P40c acquisition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ram Rod View Post
    Well........I could have said the same thing except I'd be laying down about 400 more words to explain my position.
    This is an election year (again). You have any idea what percentage of the registered voters in this country are going to turn out and actually vote? Sad statistic....maybe 20% tops. Reasons the NRA lights fires and fans the flames is because it needs to be done. I should have spent the money back in the day and been a life member by now....yet I keep renewing for one, two, or three years a whack. My membership fees go toward the best cause this country has right now. Seemingly....my generation (our generation for you'ns 40-50 years) is the last that actually gives a damn.
    I am annoyed by a lot of things these days.....neighbor's dog for one........I work nights...sleep days.....the world isn't very kind at all to us. Listen................there's a list of members viewing this thread at the moment......how many of you have never been a member of the NRA? Tell you what......I think it's so important that I will pay (via PayPal) for one new membership for a forum member for one year for the first NEW wannabee NRA member that signs up through this site. I will essentially be reimbursing you for your cost for a one year membership in the NRA via PayPal. Sorry....PayPal is the easiest way for me to do this. I'm not sure how to work this out through the site mods, but with proof of paid membership for one year in the NRA through this site...I will reimburse you (not to exceed $35) via PayPal. You text me your forum username to 4797901178 once you have paid for your one year membership, and I promise things will work out so long as you have a valid paypal account. Might not hurt to PM me the info as well. This needs to be a first time membership for one year to the NRA......no renewals, and you must use the forum link (which I cannot find at the moment like a lot of other things). I'll keep tabs and relay the message to stop texting once I have a name. You can look up the benefits of NRA membership (including basic firearms insurance) online and select the magazine of your choice. Sorry....I am not offering to pay you an extra $5 to do it at this time. But it is something to think about. I know it's not payday...it's hump day. So the forst forum member on the bubble gets the deal. Read carefully. I'm as serious as I always have been. I'm trusted on this site and hold a 100% rating on EBay. All others who come second to first...my apologies, but please respect that I will issue a statement once the deal has been taken in this thread. You abuse my phone number and I'll send you a virus. Pay close attention to this thread. Thank you.
    (be interesting to see how long this takes or who can read).................
    I'd join if I could find the link you refer to! ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by eeeZnow View Post
    I'd join if I could find the link you refer to! ;)
    You're number one on the list as of now since you asked.
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    It's pretty easy to not open the email and toss the junk mail in the trash. Altough I like the mail that has all of the stickers of the guns you could win.

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    DO I agree with the NRA 100% of the time, no. DO I find them annoying sometimes, yes. But I could say the same about my wife of 40 years or my kids or my church or just about anything or anybody. Will I continue to support the NRA, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by accessbob View Post
    I'm thrilled about my recent M&P40c acquisition.
    Way to go Bob; (S&W shareholder and owner of S&W products)
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    I support the NRA with my membership, but I also resent their tireless and shameless fundraising using the tactics you describe...

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    I just signed up for NRA yesterday - you guys are making me nervous about my mailbox blowing up!

    St. Jude's is the worst I have experienced to date - at least 3 pieces of junk mail per week! At least they stopped when I called and said "if and when I can donate again, I know where to find you - but please stop harassing me."

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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    As annoying as the NRA is, they haven't scratched the surface compared to Dudley Brown and GOA.

    While I don't agree with all of their positions, and tactics, they are by far the best Pro 2A organization out there.
    A little annoying yes. But not near as annoying as the ATF kicking your door down to take your guns away. Those of you who complain about emails,mail,etc remember how important that was to you when your waving goodbye to your firearms. Some people will just never get it. Its a waste of time to argue with them. Like liberals,you can beat them over the head with the facts that destroy their posisition and they will not see the light. Some on here sound an awful lot like liberals to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayBar View Post
    A little annoying yes. But not near as annoying as the ATF kicking your door down to take your guns away. Those of you who complain about emails,mail,etc remember how important that was to you when your waving goodbye to your firearms. Some people will just never get it. Its a waste of time to argue with them. Like liberals,you can beat them over the head with the facts that destroy their posisition and they will not see the light. Some on here sound an awful lot like liberals to me.
    Hogwash. The NRA and GOA only present one side of an arguement and sometimes are not even accurate or peddle fear mongering. Same as the Brady Bunch. Folks have no problems dropping a bovine feces flag down on the Brady Bunch when they misrepresent information and skew statistics but look the other way or worse, actually beleive 100 percent what ANY organization says, including the NRA and GOA. Those are the folks that don't get it.

    Anyaway as if you care I am a libertarian. And also someone that likes to use critical thinking and not have half the information shoved up my throat. If you look at some of the folks that paste information from the NRA and GOA into some of these threads you would think the sky is falling. It may be but at least just present the facts.

    As far as not giving the NRA my money anymore it is my way of telling them I want change. I want real information, not skewed to one side. I don't like when I look something up that Mr. LaPierre is going crazy about and find out either it is not as worse as he says or is not even accurate. And just sometimes I do not agree with every stance the NRA has.

    Funny thing is most folks so far seem to agree about the annoyance that the NRA does by the constant emails and mails and a lot do not like the way they peddle fear and doomsday scenarios. Instead of folks saying STOP IT and I will still be a member they throw up their hands and say whatever,,,,it is all we got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    Hogwash. The NRA and GOA only present one side of an arguement and sometimes are not even accurate or peddle fear mongering. Same as the Brady Bunch. Folks have no problems dropping a bovine feces flag down on the Brady Bunch when they misrepresent information and skew statistics but look the other way or worse, actually beleive 100 percent what ANY organization says, including the NRA and GOA. Those are the folks that don't get it.

    Anyaway as if you care I am a libertarian. And also someone that likes to use critical thinking and not have half the information shoved up my throat. If you look at some of the folks that paste information from the NRA and GOA into some of these threads you would think the sky is falling. It may be but at least just present the facts.

    As far as not giving the NRA my money anymore it is my way of telling them I want change. I want real information, not skewed to one side. I don't like when I look something up that Mr. LaPierre is going crazy about and find out either it is not as worse as he says or is not even accurate. And just sometimes I do not agree with every stance the NRA has.

    Funny thing is most folks so far seem to agree about the annoyance that the NRA does by the constant emails and mails and a lot do not like the way they peddle fear and doomsday scenarios. Instead of folks saying STOP IT and I will still be a member they throw up their hands and say whatever,,,,it is all we got.
    I think you make some excellent points. I totally agree that the NRA puts their own spin on things. I wish they would be a bit more objective, to say the least.

    Having said that, I support the NRA for the same reason I will probably vote for Romney in the fall, they're better than the alternative...
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    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    Hogwash. The NRA and GOA only present one side of an arguement and sometimes are not even accurate or peddle fear mongering. Same as the Brady Bunch. Folks have no problems dropping a bovine feces flag down on the Brady Bunch when they misrepresent information and skew statistics but look the other way or worse, actually beleive 100 percent what ANY organization says, including the NRA and GOA. Those are the folks that don't get it.

    Anyaway as if you care I am a libertarian. And also someone that likes to use critical thinking and not have half the information shoved up my throat. If you look at some of the folks that paste information from the NRA and GOA into some of these threads you would think the sky is falling. It may be but at least just present the facts.

    As far as not giving the NRA my money anymore it is my way of telling them I want change. I want real information, not skewed to one side. I don't like when I look something up that Mr. LaPierre is going crazy about and find out either it is not as worse as he says or is not even accurate. And just sometimes I do not agree with every stance the NRA has.

    Funny thing is most folks so far seem to agree about the annoyance that the NRA does by the constant emails and mails and a lot do not like the way they peddle fear and doomsday scenarios. Instead of folks saying STOP IT and I will still be a member they throw up their hands and say whatever,,,,it is all we got.
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    Like it or not, all these groups (NRA, GOA, etc. to include Brady Bunch) are businesses. Even though the actual businesses are non-profit, there are expenses and the employees are not non-profit - they must have a revenue stream of some sort. Most people tend to forget about making donations and if these non-profit organizations don't remind people they lose their revenue. Renewals of "intangibles", like memberships to things other than organizations that are used often like clubs, are low so, again, people need to be reminded. I've found that the amount of mail has decreased, which is what members wanted. I've often heard emails are what members would prefer. It's very easy to set up a filter - don't see what the trouble is. Like someone else said - telemarketers exist b/c the business model works, these organizations use mass marketing b/c it works. When getting people to open their wallets, emotion always trumps logic - ask any salesperson.

    Just b/c you don't see attacks on the 2nd Amend locally, doesn't mean it isn't happening. I know someone who recently wanted to open a 1000 yd shooting range. His first obstacle was to find an appropriate piece of land. He had to purchase it first, then apply for the permits for building it - including addressing a committee with a public hearing. At the hearing, he had to listen to numerous parties "testify" as to why they thought his application was unsuitable for the area - most were people that wouldn't be affected in the least bit by the range. All were incorrect as to their "facts", using the bull spread by anti-gun organizations. So after incurring huge expenses for research and purchasing the land w/o knowing for sure he would be allowed to use it the way he wanted, he was out of luck. Fortunately, he had a 2nd choice that is viable for the use of the land.

    No one likes every aspect of every business they support, at least not if they knew everything about the business. The NRA does far more good, than bad. I find having to set a filter and throwing away some junk mail far less inconvenient than giving any ground on 2nd Amend issues.

    The NRA isn't just for sportsmen and hunters, they were key in recently convincing the state of KS to recognize non-resident CCW permits. One of the first sections in every magazine is called the Armed Citizen, annotating stories of citizens using firearms for self defense. NRA Basic Handgun course is recognized as "approved" training for may CCW permits.
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