Is CA Completely Nuts?

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    Is CA Completely Nuts?

    Legislature approves high-speed rail spending

    The state is almost bankrupt and they want to spent 7-8 billion on 130 miles of track?
    How soon until the rest of the states will be required to help bail them out?

    Legislature approves high-speed rail spending - SFGate

    Sacramento --

    A divided state Senate approved billions of dollars in funding to start construction on California's ambitious high-speed rail line Friday, handing the controversial project $7.9 billion in state and federal money for the first 130 miles of track and a series of local transit upgrades...
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    Is CA Completely Nuts?

    Ummmmmmmmm.......Yes? They have to have some way of getting undocumented workers to other parts of the state with gas prices so high.

    Nothing that happens there surprises me anymore. "We are 10 billion over budget, oh wait make that 13 billion. No, No, No, my bad it is really 19 billion. Well hell lets just round it off and say 25 billion.
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    Yes, if they can get deep enough in the whole, they will get bailed out.
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    "Is CA Completely Nuts"?

    Yeah, pretty much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    Legislature approves high-speed rail spending

    The state is almost bankrupt and they want to spent 7-8 billion on 130 miles of track?
    How soon until the rest of the states will be required to help bail them out?

    Legislature approves high-speed rail spending - SFGate

    Sacramento --

    A divided state Senate approved billions of dollars in funding to start construction on California's ambitious high-speed rail line Friday, handing the controversial project $7.9 billion in state and federal money for the first 130 miles of track and a series of local transit upgrades...
    To answer the base question ...... YES! CA is Nuts. Moon Beam Gov anyone?

    The only thing good about CA is a few good Right Leaning Congressmen like Jerry Lewis and Issa.

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    ...Kalifornia is already taxing business out of existence, and part of their problem is their bread and butter are closing up shop and relocating to a "friendlier" business climate....which is pretty much anywhere but Kalifornia. I'm sure the brain surgeons running the state will come up with another tax on individuals and business earmarked for this project, and in the process generate less tax revenue than before as more individuals and business bail out of the state.
    Have any of these clowns ever taken a course in economics?
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    How soon until the rest of the states will be required to help bail them out?
    Is CA Completely Nuts?

    Not really. They get what they want and someone else foots the bill. I think that's pretty much how criminals think: it's legal as long as I don't get caught. But not being a criminal that's only a suspicion.

    Unfortunately I think we are nuts for putting up with this nonsense. It's up to us to articulate the insanity and bring personal accountability back into the equation. I know that sounds impossible but I believe it is the task that has fallen to this generation.
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    The kicker, which is merely an estimate at this point, entirely likely to balloon continuously until completion:
    Quote Originally Posted by From the article
    The cost of the high-speed rail line - now estimated at $68 billion - has ballooned since voters approved the bonds four years ago, and public support for the bullet train has fallen as projected costs rose.

    Nice to see that the people have some qualms, even if the Assembly doesn't. Unspecified is how much of that would be covered by people outside of CA.

    Completely nuts? Not completely, though the almonds are still pretty good.
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    China will expand it when the USA defaults on all the debt we will owe them in 20 years,and they just walk in and repossess all our military hardware we bought with their money and we become China 2
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    I believe that California doesn't have the lock on being nuts, heck, I think the majority of our polititians in all our states and territories are loonies here lately.

    And yes, absolutely nothing surprises me out of California officials, especially the Liberal leaning ones with the following quote from Albert Einstein in mind :

    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
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    Are you just now figuring it out? I don't think that state has been sane in a LONG time. That's probably the main reason that so many of it's residents keep moving to MT. They can sell their $500,000 average California home and buy a nice sized ranch here, which they promptly run into the dirt because they lack common sense or the will to actually put in a hard day's work. It's unbelievable how much good hunting land has become littered with No Trespassing signs.

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    Yes they are nuts. Yes they will go along with this. Yes ObamaNut will bail them out if things get too bad. After all that is where Nancy Piglosi lives and all those undocumented votes are.

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    Maybe they'll pass a leaving the state tax to fund the project. Any business or individual who wants to leave the state must pay a tax of 50% of gross value of all holdings to the state before they are allowed to leave.
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    Is CA Completely Nuts?
    Short answer: Yes.
    The high speed rail idea may actually be one of their more sensible ideas though. Long term it certainly makes sense. With the State's current fiscal mess the timing does seem odd.

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    Come back and discuss it when they are talking about rail-guns, not high speed rail.

    I don't know if they are completely nuts or not. I used the railroads when I was young, and would use them today
    over the plane--anytime--if they were high speed. The NE corridor needs huge improvements to its HS rail-- but the Acela
    is great. Downtown NYC to Philadelphia with no muss or fuss in about an hour.

    The entire East Coast needs better HS from Boston to Miami. We could certainly use HS from San Antonio to the East Coast and to Chicago and even to Denver, Phoenix, and points west in CA and Washington.

    What I find astounding is not the concept of HS rail but the estimated costs. OTOH, the airline industry is
    very heavily subsidized. Airlines don't build airports or maintain them; local governments do with lots and lots
    of Federal tax dollars to make it possible. Throw in all the bucks spent on ATC and air-transport is
    extremely subsidized by us all.



    We had all the same complaints about cost when the Interstate was being considered, but hey, it was fine
    because it was for defense. OK. HS is for defense. Problem solved. Now its not crazy.
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