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    Quote Originally Posted by mprp View Post
    Hello All,

    Ever been to a yard / garage sale and see one of those old phones with only the 12 buttons, 1-0, * and #? Well, if you don't own one, you may want to pick up the next one that you see at that yard sale or at any store that may carry them. You know, those "stupid" corded things that are a pain in the butt because you can't walk around the house with it like you can a cordless.

    So what is it that we hear quite often on here about home defense? Grab a firearm and call 911. Well what if you've limited yourself to equipment totally dependent on commercial power and there is none and you have no idea when it will be restored? Sometimes you don't have to.

    Many of you may already know this but it would be worth it to me if one person didn't and was helped out the next time the power goes out in their neck of the woods. Here's the thing. I work as an exchange manager at a phone company and so I see this all the time whenever the power goes out especially. Quite a few go without phone service because the power goes out and guess what goes with it? Those wonderful cutting edge cordless phones.

    What some people don't understand is that the newer phones need electricity and when the power goes out, it doesn't mean that they don't have phone service. Ok, granted the telephone lines aren't damaged due to the storm along with the commercial power. But in a rolling power outage situation you should still have telephone service which may be your last line of communication when cell phones go dead and the power is out for days. Normal telephone service does not rely on commercial power to feed dial tone to your house and is usually backed up with emergency power that should far outlast any outage thrown its way. But when the lights go dark, you wouldn't believe how many don't realize that there is phone service right there at their phone jack on the wall.

    Knowing what goes on in my telephone exchange area, the recent outage in WV got me thinking of how many people must not realize that their phone could still be working if they only had the right one. And although a lot of us are well prepared for things that come our way as far as extra food on hand, defensive weaponry etc., in our technological world it's easy to forget about those good old fashioned products that they just don't make like they used to or are very easy to pass up in the store because they just aren't convenient or "techni-cool."

    Now, one caveat to this is you may likely run into one of the old rotary phones that don't require electricity as well but the main switch at your phone company may choke on the inherent pulse platform. Not impossible to use but the switch technician may have to change a setting before it can work well. (I do with my switch) The corded push button type uses DTMF which is common with any other phones made today, even cordless. (Sans IP PBX phones) I'm refering to normal dial tone service.

    So although the big one, (SHTF) has yet to hit, those who are in the middle of a major power outage for a long period of time can probably parallel the two. Whenever I get a hold of an extra, I give it to a needy person when I find out that the power has been out and they've been without a phone. So if you do have normal phone service you may want to have one of these as a backup to increase your odds of reaching 911 during an outage. So these are just a few thoughts of mine, a bit unorthodox for a defensive firearms forum I know but I figured I'd pass it on as communication is also a big part of home defense.

    Don't be home without it!

    On Sept 11, 2001, cell phones were the first to go out. Somewhere in my house is a lined phone - gotta find it or get another.

    Thanks for the reminder.

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    We still have 2 analog phones and I still pay for a land line, for the very reasons you mention.

    However, having a Father in Law who is retired from the Telcom industry I can tell you this, if we are talking about a SHTF situation or a total breakdown in order, loss of power for a very extended time frame, even the analog phones hooked to land lines will work for at most several days. Once the diesel running the emergency generators at the various switching stations runs out, landlines will be dead as well. Plus, believe it or not, now even most landlines go through several cell, or microwave hops before reaching any end point. So even with a land line, you are still reliant upon cell technology to some extent.
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    Back when I had a few extra bucks I had a place on the backwaters down east. My old buddy across the road would frequently give me tips on how to not be stupid with my skiff, cast net, dock construction, etc. His advice was always square but he could deliver it with a smile and a barb in it. I was a green horn and he liked it. One day he was showing me his new cordless set of phones and I mentioned power outages, which happen frequently down there. He stood their blinking.....went back in the house and plugged the old one back in. The land line, wired, is one more bit of backup.
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    There's something else too: nothing sounds as good a land-line phone. Cells were OK - just OK - before everyone had them because half the time one of the two parties in a phone call still was on a land-line or at least a home remote. Now that it's cell to cell the sound is terrible for any extended conversation, so I usually just use a cell for a short business-like call, save real conversations for my home phone.

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    There are plenty of ways to charge a cell phone without electricity if it's an emergency.
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    If someone has not mentioned this yet, remember that the land line system will not survive EMP. Keep some 2 meter and other radios protected and disconnected, in case you think you might need them in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mprp View Post
    Hello All,

    Ever been to a yard / garage sale and see one of those old phones with only the 12 buttons, 1-0, * and #? Well, if you don't own one, you may want to pick up the next one that you see at that yard sale or at any store that may carry them. You know, those "stupid" corded things that are a pain in the butt because you can't walk around the house with it like you can a cordless.

    So what is it that we hear quite often on here about home defense? Grab a firearm and call 911. Well what if you've limited yourself to equipment totally dependent on commercial power and there is none and you have no idea when it will be restored? Sometimes you don't have to.

    Many of you may already know this but it would be worth it to me if one person didn't and was helped out the next time the power goes out in their neck of the woods. Here's the thing. I work as an exchange manager at a phone company and so I see this all the time whenever the power goes out especially. Quite a few go without phone service because the power goes out and guess what goes with it? Those wonderful cutting edge cordless phones.

    What some people don't understand is that the newer phones need electricity and when the power goes out, it doesn't mean that they don't have phone service. Ok, granted the telephone lines aren't damaged due to the storm along with the commercial power. But in a rolling power outage situation you should still have telephone service which may be your last line of communication when cell phones go dead and the power is out for days. Normal telephone service does not rely on commercial power to feed dial tone to your house and is usually backed up with emergency power that should far outlast any outage thrown its way. But when the lights go dark, you wouldn't believe how many don't realize that there is phone service right there at their phone jack on the wall.

    Knowing what goes on in my telephone exchange area, the recent outage in WV got me thinking of how many people must not realize that their phone could still be working if they only had the right one. And although a lot of us are well prepared for things that come our way as far as extra food on hand, defensive weaponry etc., in our technological world it's easy to forget about those good old fashioned products that they just don't make like they used to or are very easy to pass up in the store because they just aren't convenient or "techni-cool."

    Now, one caveat to this is you may likely run into one of the old rotary phones that don't require electricity as well but the main switch at your phone company may choke on the inherent pulse platform. Not impossible to use but the switch technician may have to change a setting before it can work well. (I do with my switch) The corded push button type uses DTMF which is common with any other phones made today, even cordless. (Sans IP PBX phones) I'm refering to normal dial tone service.

    So although the big one, (SHTF) has yet to hit, those who are in the middle of a major power outage for a long period of time can probably parallel the two. Whenever I get a hold of an extra, I give it to a needy person when I find out that the power has been out and they've been without a phone. So if you do have normal phone service you may want to have one of these as a backup to increase your odds of reaching 911 during an outage. So these are just a few thoughts of mine, a bit unorthodox for a defensive firearms forum I know but I figured I'd pass it on as communication is also a big part of home defense.

    Don't be home without it!

    You must have been at my house. I have that exact same phone on my desk and it still works.
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    Got it! A couple years ago we had a bad ice storm in our area that cut power to 100k+ people or more. My mother and I were the only people in our family who had phone service and I was the only one from my work to have it. Folks were amazed when I explained that the phone company provides it's own power to run the phone system. Cell phones were useless until you drove through an area where the cell towers had power too. Also, it was an eerie feeling to drive through towns that were completely dark at night, made me glad to have my CC with me.

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    Yeah you won't want to get rid of that one if it's workd for you before. On another note, you can actually dial the pulse type phones by tapping the hook rapidly. That's how those work is that they pulse on-hook / off-hook very fast. In other words, if you dial 1 when the phone is taken off-hook, then it pulses one time by going on-hook then off-hook really fast. So, if you treat it like morse code, (CW for you hams out there) you can dial out even if your dial is screwed up. Or say for instance a very long time ago your cousin's parents put a lock on their dial and you and your cousin figured a way to call your girlfriends.

    So if you want to dial 911, you can pick up your phone there in your pic or the type in the OP and "morse code" 9 pulses, wait about 1/2 sec. then 1 pulse, wait 1/2 sec. then another pulse and you just called 911. Or any other number you want for that matter dialed in sequence.
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    Some time ago (maybe 10-15 years ago) some company marketed small UPSs for backing up cordless phones. They were probably on the market for just a year or so, never got any traction.

    When I went looking for some, found there's nothing like that available. Oh well, I have one plain phone on each floor of the house.

    ETA: well, there is at least one marketed for cordless phones: PROVANTAGE: CyberPower Systems CPS180PHV Phone Saver - Cordless Phone Battery Back-up System
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdprof View Post
    Some time ago (maybe 10-15 years ago) some company marketed small UPSs for backing up cordless phones. They were probably on the market for just a year or so, never got any traction.
    I've just plugged in the cordless and cell charger to the UPS that protects the computer equipment. Powering just the phone, it would last a good year.
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