4 yr old shoots herself with Daddy's pistol

4 yr old shoots herself with Daddy's pistol

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    4 yr old shoots herself with Daddy's pistol

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    Detroit girl, 4, shoots self with father's gun
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    Tragic and utterly avoidable. This is the type of stuff that Sarah Brady harps about.
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    not very smart to leave a hand gun in a car much less an unlocked car

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    Tragic. Prayers to the family.

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    If he's going to leave it in the vehicle, he should get a safe. He should be arrested, for being stupid, I am happy that the little girl will get another chance at life.
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    While 4yrs old is a bit young to really have the message "stick" in all cases, I'm betting that gunproofing training had not yet begun in that house. Unknown if the car was unlocked, glove box was unlocked, keys were accessible. The gun obviously was. Whatever else is true, it's a situation that should not have happened. Sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barstoolguru View Post
    not very smart to leave a hand gun in a car much less an unlocked car
    ... or your 4 year old. What the hell is a kid doing in the car around midnight anyways?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blitzburgh View Post
    ... or your 4 year old. What the hell is a kid doing in the car around midnight anyways?
    My feelings exactly unless she was getting picked up by from a baby sitter,even then who leaves a 4 year old alone in a car.This is why I hate off person carry,unless the gun is on your person you normally don't have 100% control of that firearm,when people leave guns in glove boxes or center consoles they tend to forget they are there.IMHO CHARGES SHOULD BE FILED
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    Kid and gun alone in car seems to be a common setting for tragedy. I don't even begin to understand those people. My 4 year old knows what a gun is and not to touch it but I'm not about to bet her life on the assumption that she wouldn't break that rule. I leave her alone in the car for brief periods in the driveway. Usually because I forgot something in the house. But a gun is never left in the car unless it's in the safe, kid or no kid. I have a goal to never have my guns played with by children or stolen and put in the hands of a thug.

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    so i was under the understanding that if your gun is out of your possession, even with a carry permit, it should be locked and stored in accordance with state (or federal) law. so...wasn't this guy breaking the law by leaving a loaded weapon in an unlocked container (glovebox, which isn't even considered a case by the courts)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    While 4yrs old is a bit young to really have the message "stick" in all cases, I'm betting that gunproofing training had not yet begun in that house. Unknown if the car was unlocked, glove box was unlocked, keys were accessible. The gun obviously was. Whatever else is true, it's a situation that should not have happened. Sad.
    I was started at 3. My Dad took me to a range and blew up watermelons with his .357. Didn't give me hearing protection or anything. REALLY made the point. I knew what a gun could do and never felt the need to mess with one without my Dad around. As I got older I got to shoot that very same .357 and it was left with me several times when my parent's went out of town and I stayed home alone. Teach them to respect guns, not fear them, and you'd be surprised at how sensible a small child could be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spidey2011 View Post
    I was started at 3. My Dad took me to a range and blew up watermelons with his .357. Didn't give me hearing protection or anything. REALLY made the point. I knew what a gun could do and never felt the need to mess with one without my Dad around. As I got older I got to shoot that very same .357 and it was left with me several times when my parent's went out of town and I stayed home alone. Teach them to respect guns, not fear them, and you'd be surprised at how sensible a small child could be.
    Good parenting would have kept her safe. My grand daughters both got their youth rifles (Davy Cricket) at the age of 4, education, experience and supervision has kept them safe. They are now 8 and 11 with no accidents.
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    Im willing to overlook some levels of stupidity. 10 years in EMS and I feel I kind of have to in order to treat all of my patients equaly. But HOW, HOW can anyone be so irresponsible with firearms and children?

    I used to work security and emergency services for a major drug company and the guy that once worked opposite of my shift had one of these incidents. He left his personal gun on the nightstand and took a nap. Thier little one fataly shot herself in the head. I think she was about 4 or 5. Anyways, what I thought was worse is the media and locals were playing it off like he and his wife were the victims; "I feel so terrible for the parents," "We're praying for the family," "They are such good, responsible people."

    Correct me if Im wrong but responsible people dont leave loaded guns in reach of unattended children. Not to mention the guy was a major tool and we had investigated and fired him for stealing company property.

    I have no pitty for anyone whose negligence leads to harming a child.
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    Glad the little girl is going to be OK. Dad needs his rear kicked.
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