Heroin overtaking Northern Kentucky

[blitzburgh]

Heroin is making a big show in the St. Louis area as well. It's become the drug of choice among young people here in middle class suburbia. Lots of stroies about high school kids ODing.

This is what's happening.. High school kids are starting off with vicodin/percocets and once their tolerance reaches a certain height, they move onto roxy's/oxy's. Now, oxy's are expensive pills (usually $1/mg) and once again, their tolerance rises even more. They then realize they can buy heroin for about $6/bag. They snort the bags just like they were the oxy's. Then they move onto shooting the heroin bags up and it's game over from there. Truly a vicious cycle. I've seen it play out before my eyes many, many, many times.

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[BigJon10125]

Sorry to hear that EricB. Stay safe, hopefully it is a phase and passes quickly. Good luck. Such a sad existence. Do people not see what these things do to them? That is rhetorical, I understand how strong the draw, or addiction can be and that sense is not part of the equation after that.

[blitzburgh]

It's far from a phase and will not pass quickly. It's here to stay.

[kapie9969]

A friends brother used heroin,he would throw up and then nod off.Dosent sound very attractive to me. Also i read where opium in a natural state is like a wonder drug for pain and other conditions.I have heard Afganistan has had record breaking crops even with us there.

[blitzburgh]

A friends brother used heroin,he would throw up and then nod off.Dosent sound very attractive to me. Also i read where opium in a natural state is like a wonder drug for pain and other conditions.I have heard Afganistan has had record breaking crops even with us there.

Google "Golden Triangle". Prescription pain killers are also pretty much synthetic heroin (they're an opiate). For example, morphine. You have to turn opium into morphine before you can turn it into heroin.

[Spirit51]

I had a niece who died overdosed on we believe was heron. She was married to another junkie. Funny think was she wouldn't eat or touch anything that had a "face" at one time. No leather shoes....wouldn't even ride in a vehicle with leather seats, but she would inject that trash into her body and it killed her....young. What a waste. Everyone knew, but on one could do anything about it.

Whoever said that this can't be stopped is right. We can't stop it, but we can start educating the youngsters early and with a huge dose of reality. Show junkies and how they live. Show dead junkies. Give them the honest facts.

The other thing is if someone breaks the law because of their drug problem....very serious sentences. If you rob a bank or person to support a drug habit....tack on mandatory 15 more years to the sentence.

[Geezer]

I had a niece who died overdosed on we believe was heron. She was married to another junkie. Funny think was she wouldn't eat or touch anything that had a "face" at one time. No leather shoes....wouldn't even ride in a vehicle with leather seats, but she would inject that trash into her body and it killed her....young. What a waste. Everyone knew, but on one could do anything about it.

Whoever said that this can't be stopped is right. We can't stop it, but we can start educating the youngsters early and with a huge dose of reality. Show junkies and how they live. Show dead junkies. Give them the honest facts.

The other thing is if someone breaks the law because of their drug problem....very serious sentences. If you rob a bank or person to support a drug habit....tack on mandatory 15 more years to the sentence.

But that education must begin at home, at an early age, by PARENTS - real parents that care.

[l1a1]

Spirit - I'm sorry to hear about your neice. That is a terrible thing. I agree that education is the key. Just like you said the cold hard truth. Kids need to see the deceased junkies lying on a slab. Even then I don't know that it would fix all the ones that are hooked. It screws up a persons brain chemistry.

This situation really saddens me. Geezer is absolutely correct. Parenting is the key but tell me how to turn THAT ship around.

[ericb327]

Bellevue Police take down major dealer!

[JoJoGunn]

I got news for you, it isn't overtaking, it has overtaken.

Absolutely ^^^^this^^^. There have been three occasions in my work that I have been at active meth labs and had no idea they were doing it. My job does not allow me to be armed either.

Across the alley from my detached garage in an alley apartment, there have been at least three "families" of drug dealers from weed to crack cocaine. I used to carry a pistol with me when I came and went from my own property becuse of them and how paranoid and dangerous they can be. One of the guys has been arrested three times this year, including the time they occupied the apartment across from me.

I have a cousin whose son died of an overdose of black tar heroin several years ago when it was a real problem in my hometown coming from the Columbus, OH distribution center. It's everywhere.

There is no cure for illegal dealers except death, sorry to say.

[kapnketel]

Bellevue Police take down major dealer!

Unfortunately, just a drop in the bucket in northern KY. Heroin OD's really keep the Covington ED busy. Last summer my wife did a ride along with the Covington police, picked a Friday night in the summer. First call was an OD in the Burger King off of 5th in Covington. Ohio residents come across the river, buy in the parking lot and shoot up in the bathroom and OD. The manager learned CPR to deal with these incidents. As they drove around the officer pointed out house after house that are known heroin shooting galleries. With heroin cheaper than pot its not going away any time soon.

[troutkiller]

The last time we had a heroin epidemic this bad was during the Vietnam War. And it's no coincidence. The Taliban all but wiped out poppy production by 2000, the year before 9/11 and the American invasion.

Opium production in Afghanistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[CaveJohnson]

This is why it needs to be legalized, heroin is surging because of crackdowns on painkillers.

Legalizing = Little to no crime

Demand will never go away, and prohibition has been an utter failure. It's destroyed millions of lives and it can NEVER be won. At the very least, decriminalize like Portugal and see a massive drop in crime and use rates.

Lets bring back Agent Orange and Napalm. Turn those Poppy fields into more desert.

The Afghanistan war is what made it worse in the first place, the Taliban kept the poppy fields from being there at all.

[Jeanlouise]

Heroin is a big problem here too. We're on I-81 and a few miles south of I-70 so the dealers come out of Baltimore, DC and Philadelphia in droves and supply the addicts. Our newspaper police blotter is probably 95% drug crime and at least 95% of that is Heroin.

It turns people into monsters. At any given time our local hospital has several addicted babies in the newborn nursery. They scream 24/7, have seizures, can't suck...therefore can't eat...it's just horrible to see. These poor little things are destroyed before they ever had a chance. And, you know what? Their Mothers could care less. All they're concerned about is getting their next fix.

Drugs are destroying our society in so many ways and it's getting worse.

[wingryder]

Detroit has one of the largest Muslim populations in the country and Canada has a huge population as well. I don't know if there is a connection, don't know that much about it. I do know that muslims have their own internal bartering system where they move goods and money under the table. Its something to think about.