August 6th, 2012 07:08 PM
Insult Added to Injury.
Today was not the best of days. I took the wife shopping and pretty much acted as her 'driver'.
We were on our way home...stopped at a light and enjoying a bit of conversation...BOOM, hit from behind.
I got out of my truck and walked back to see this elderly lady who was still recovering from 'meeting' her air bag. She got out of her car and was scared to death and shaking.
I asked her if she was OK...she was apologizing for the accident and I told her that it was not a problem, accidents happen.
I called the police and two cars pulled up at the same time...two cops, one a tiny cute lady, the other a big dude.
I wasn't going to say anything about being armed, but I thought "Why not, as a courtsey?" (One is not required to mention being armed in FL.)
I mentioned to the young lady that I was a legally armed Floridian, and as she was saying, "Thank you for telling me...", the big guy walked up (hearing our conversation) and said, "Where's the gun?"
I lifted my open shirt and said, "Right here on my side." He said, "I'll have to take that from you..." Now the strange part is that he doesn't take it from me, he asks me to hand it to him??????????????
I said, "Are you serious?" He says (very nicely), "Yes, for your safety and mine, I want to remove the magazine and the round from the chamber...then I'll put it all in your glove box (where my wife is still sitting).
He leaves the scene and says that the young lady will handle the paperwork.
We get all the paperwork done, the other driver got two tickets. As I was leaving, the young officer says to me, "I'm sorry about that other guy taking your gun, I probably wouldn't have done that." I said, "I'm glad to hear that because what that taught me was not to mention anything the next time. She also thought it was a bit awkward for me to HAND him the gun...the holster was looped into my belt, so I literally pulled the gun out of the holster and had to hand it to him. That doesn't sound like something demonstrating HIS safety. Oh well, it is what it is! No one was hurt in the accident, and 'rear-ends' in Florida don't count against one's insurance...if you're the "rear-endee"
I had done nothing wrong, I was the victim (so to speak), and I mentioned being armed as a courtesy. I might rethink that approach next time I have a minor encounter.
I wonder what tomorrow will bring?
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August 6th, 2012 07:21 PM
I don't know why an LEO would want to have a gun removed from it's holster and handled when not necessary to do so. Just another chance to have a mishap, what would he do then?
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August 6th, 2012 07:28 PM
You and the Mrs ok Ret? Seems so, but be mindful of pain that may creep up later. Very odd from the Leo, but at least it went well.
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August 6th, 2012 07:29 PM
Maybe send a friendly letter to the chief, and let him know the difference between the two officers.
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August 6th, 2012 07:33 PM
I do not see it as rude not notifying an officer. I don't unless required by law. But you did what you thought was nice. Glad that you and the misses are OK as well as the lady...
August 6th, 2012 07:41 PM
Glad to hear you and the Mrs. are OK. I too don't understand the removing of a gun from a holster for "safety". It must have been taught at police academies at one point.
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August 6th, 2012 07:43 PM
My best friend is an LEO here in Central Fl and she will also ask someone to hand her their gun if shown a permit. I know we don't have to in FL but always figured if pulled over I would, as a courtesy, but when she told me that I was surprised. She told me some LEO's do and some don't but she wants to know where the gun is at all times (she takes it with her to her vehicle if she has to walk away). I tried to say the legally carrying people who offer up the fact that they're carrying are really not who she needs to worry about but that's how she does it. I've heard others will ask "where is it" and leave it at that.
Glad y'all weren't hurt!
August 6th, 2012 07:47 PM
Good that y’all are ok was a bit strange how the one officer handled you being armed. Last time I was in an accident I informed the officer (required) I was armed and her only comment was ok.
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August 6th, 2012 07:48 PM
Silly and probably illegal seizure. But there are times to pick the battles, and a constitutional face-off in the wake of a traffic accident is not one of those times. Glad all is well.
August 6th, 2012 07:51 PM
Curious as to what the RAS is for the search and seizure....
Originally Posted by Lish
August 6th, 2012 08:12 PM
Cops come in all varieties,like any other job. Some are well suited for the job,others are not.
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August 6th, 2012 08:21 PM
Ret, sorry about your mishap today. Be aware that injuries from a rear end collision can sometimes not show up for a day or two. I'd be looking for sore or stiff back, neck, hip sockets, and a headache or blurry vision. Personally, your experience is enough for me to re-think my notification intentions. With my wife and kids in the car, I'd rather my firearm stay in its holster and not be handled. Thanks for sharing, and hope yall are ok.
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August 6th, 2012 08:21 PM
Sounds like the tiny female cop is a better judge of character than the "big dude" is.
Glad everyone seems alright for now. Make sure you are both feeling alright in a day or two, and if not, immediately inform the ins. co .
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August 6th, 2012 08:25 PM
She has told me her goal is to go home safely at the end of each shift and by having the weapon she feels safer. She doesn't ask everyone she stops if they are a permit holder but if they offer the info then she disarms. She's polite about it but I don't agree...
Originally Posted by PEF
August 6th, 2012 08:26 PM
I have to agree with the above posts, glad you and the misses are ok, stay safe.
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