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This is a discussion on The Down Hill Slide to Rome... within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by oakchas While it may seem true... the usual email that surrounds this list of our demise is greatly flawed... But it does ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    While it may seem true... the usual email that surrounds this list of our demise is greatly flawed... But it does make one think, I suppose... and what are YOU doing about it?
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    Dennis,

    We are about the same age. (1951) I remember the protests against Vietnam. I also remember the loose sexual activities that became a 'hip' thing to do. No bras. That was considered a "deviant life style" of free sex and drugs and rock& roll. Even Elvis was not allowed to be shown on TV from the waist down do to his sinful gyrations. Oh my!

    I also remember the racial riots and how that affected me. It was very turbulent times as I remember but I made it through.

    Are things really that different now? I don't see it as such.

    I remember sitting around the TV with my high school friends the night they released the draft lottery based on your birth date. I was #51 on the list which meant I was sure to get called. As I look back I don't remember anyone who was willing to go voluntarily and fight in this war. What were we fighting for?..was always the question asked and lots of our good men died fighting. I still ask...why? Give your life to accomplish what? I was told as I went into the military that we are fighting communism. That's all I knew but I went and I served my time. Some of my friends didn't make it home. As it turned out we were "subjects" of our very own government. They got in a war they couldn't win and didn't know how to end it. Sound familiar?

    It appeared to me that the ones who became actively involved in protesting the war and involved in the peace movement were mostly liberal types. Hippies. Instead of being sheep lead to slaughter they actively said NO! We're not going to take it anymore and they did something about it. Washington felt the pressure. As I remember the conservatives wanted to stay behind the government and condemned the protesters. "Damn those long haired, draft card burning hippies!" I can still hear my fathers voice.

    Our current war is different. Why aren't we having the same protests? It's going on year after year like Vietnam did. Where are the marches on Washington? What goal are we trying to accomplish? Are we accomplishing it?
    The lack of a draft as changed things. I believe people aren't actively protesting is because there is NO draft. When a Senators son can be drafted involuntarily I think you'd see a whole different dynamic.

    I wish your son well and please thank him for his service and may he get home safely.
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    I hear ya loud and clear. I don't see things getting any better any time soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis1209 View Post
    Here's the question that goes though everyones mind in combat. What am I doing here and what am I fighting for? Is it life, liberty, welfare and the right to bestiality, or traditional moral values that made our nation great?
    The military isn't fighting to protect America's freedoms, they're fighting to protect corporate profits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rammerjammer View Post
    The military isn't fighting to protect America's freedoms, they're fighting to protect corporate profits.
    That and to protect the contractors building pipelines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sig35seven View Post
    Dennis,

    We are about the same age. (1951) I remember the protests against Vietnam. I also remember the loose sexual activities that became a 'hip' thing to do. No bras. That was considered a "deviant life style" of free sex and drugs and rock& roll. Even Elvis was not allowed to be shown on TV from the waist down do to his sinful gyrations. Oh my!

    I also remember the racial riots and how that affected me. It was very turbulent times as I remember but I made it through.

    Are things really that different now? I don't see it as such.

    I remember sitting around the TV with my high school friends the night they released the draft lottery based on your birth date. I was #51 on the list which meant I was sure to get called. As I look back I don't remember anyone who was willing to go voluntarily and fight in this war. What were we fighting for?..was always the question asked and lots of our good men died fighting. I still ask...why? Give your life to accomplish what? I was told as I went into the military that we are fighting communism. That's all I knew but I went and I served my time. Some of my friends didn't make it home. As it turned out we were "subjects" of our very own government. They got in a war they couldn't win and didn't know how to end it. Sound familiar?

    It appeared to me that the ones who became actively involved in protesting the war and involved in the peace movement were mostly liberal types. Hippies. Instead of being sheep lead to slaughter they actively said NO! We're not going to take it anymore and they did something about it. Washington felt the pressure. As I remember the conservatives wanted to stay behind the government and condemned the protesters. "Damn those long haired, draft card burning hippies!" I can still hear my fathers voice.

    Our current war is different. Why aren't we having the same protests? It's going on year after year like Vietnam did. Where are the marches on Washington? What goal are we trying to accomplish? Are we accomplishing it?
    The lack of a draft as changed things. I believe people aren't actively protesting is because there is NO draft. When a Senators son can be drafted involuntarily I think you'd see a whole different dynamic.

    I wish your son well and please thank him for his service and may he get home safely.
    Hi Sig35,

    Well, believe it or not, you're helping me make my point!

    Do you see a fast progression of what was law, what was allowed to be transmitted on radio & TV, and what is so proudly displayed in public areas in the last 40-50 years. Does it make sense to legislate laws and establish protective class's based on acts and choices? Are we born with a gene or DNA that we are predestined to participate in dangerous activities and/or commit heinous crimes against humanity?

    IMO, what "the people want" are taking us down the road to self destruction.

    Just one persons opinion, no offense!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis1209 View Post
    Hi Sig35,

    Well, believe it or not, you're helping me make my point!

    Do you see a fast progression of what was law, what was allowed to be transmitted on radio & TV, and what is so proudly displayed in public areas in the last 40-50 years. Does it make sense to legislate laws and establish protective class's based on acts and choices? Are we born with a gene or DNA that we are predestined to participate in dangerous activities and/or commit heinous crimes against humanity?

    IMO, what "the people want" are taking us down the road to self destruction.

    Just one persons opinion, no offense!

    What exactly do you mean in the hi-lighted part above?

    Isn't it "we the people" what this country is about? Not sure what you're suggesting. If what "the people want" is taking us down a road to destruction who would make the decision of what road we do take?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis1209 View Post
    It could have meant sexual, criminal or alternate life styles... I didn't specify...
    I agree. I'm tired of big businesses stealing our money and getting subsidized. I'm disgusted by all the fat old folks on Medicare and Medicaid who don't deserve a penny of our tax dollars. The same with student loans, why not get a job and save up the money for your education? And the poor hungry people should just work and get better jobs. I don't care if you're 15 and have to drop out of school, get a job and buy your own food. It isn't my problem that your poor. Go down to the church and beg there.

    I heard a statistic that said before social security 50% of elderly folks lived in poverty and rummaged through trash to eat during the depression and before we got the "New Deal" which is really commie socialism. I hate when people use statistics and imagery like that because it is meant to stir the heart and tug at my emotions. I don't care if they couldn't afford to eat as it isn't my problem. They should save their money during their younger years and prepare for the future including their healthcare and living expenses. Having uncle sugar daddy give them money in the form of Medicare and social security is disgraceful and not what our founders wanted. It is socialism and those who accept it are nothing but blood sucking parasites off of us who produce. Who is John Galt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rammerjammer View Post
    The military isn't fighting to protect America's freedoms, they're fighting to protect corporate profits.
    Weapons of Mass Destruction and Radical Islamp-Fascism. That is why they fight.

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    I'm with you Dennis,but I think 'We the People" are starting to wake up from the illusion of the beaver cleaver euphoric American Dream and are starting to realize that we have allowed this to happen,I sure hope that people start voting for what is going to turn this nation around and bring us back to the great nation we once were.
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