The head shot

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    Voted....thanks for doing this!
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    okay, here's a quick update....

    I've put the brain in somebody's head... It' ain't Ahhhhnold's head.. but it'll do as "generic perp" He's a bit of a pretty boy... an upscale thug, maybe.

    here's his headshot:
    headshot 1.jpg

    And, just to prove there's a brain in there:
    headshot 2.jpg
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    now all I have to do is give you some multiple choice targets on his face from different angles... and you can see if you can turn his lights out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    okay, here's a quick update....

    I've put the brain in somebody's head... It' ain't Ahhhhnold's head.. but it'll do as "generic perp" He's a bit of a pretty boy... an upscale thug, maybe.

    here's his headshot:
    headshot 1.jpg

    And, just to prove there's a brain in there:
    headshot 2.jpg
    So right through the nose if someone is facing you, huh? And I woulda tried for the ol' "right between the eyes" shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad426 View Post
    So right through the nose if someone is facing you, huh? And I woulda tried for the ol' "right between the eyes" shot.
    Depends on the angle... in this shot you're (well, the camera is) about 16 feet away and about 6 inches above... straight on.

    As I develop the "targets," and the "movies" to go with them, you will begin to see just how hard it is to get a no-involuntary-reactions-kill shot with a handgun...
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    here's a head on shot, same distance... with the camera at the same level as the head not, above as before

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    I voted. But I might also suggest that it doesn't necessarily require a physical "hit" on your very small (highlighted red) target to instantly destroy its function. The soft nature of brain-matter along with the shock wave (energy transfer) through to cranial cavity by a high-velocity bullet (of sufficient mass) can shut it down much like a near-miss can sink a ship at sea. The ocular-cranial (triangle formed by the eyes & nose) shot is, in some circles, considered the "compromise of choice" by giving the largest target area with the highest probability of instant shut-down.

    I've enjoyed trigger-time with a couple of U.S. Air Marshals (great guys, great shots!). We tied three 10" helium balloons on 3' strings, one green (hostage) and two red (hijackers), to an RC off-road, scale race car. The game was to shoot both red balloons without popping the green one as the other guy drove the car bouncing, dodging & reversing through a gravel pit. When you popped the green one, the other guy then got to shoot & you got to drive. Y'all would be surprised how many green balloons got killed. Honestly, it's not a shot upon which I ever want to bet my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost tracker View Post
    I voted. But I might also suggest that it doesn't necessarily require a physical "hit" on your very small (highlighted red) target to instantly destroy its function. The soft nature of brain-matter along with the shock wave (energy transfer) through to cranial cavity by a high-velocity bullet (of sufficient mass) can shut it down much like a near-miss can sink a ship at sea. The ocular-cranial (triangle formed by the eyes & nose) shot is, in some circles, considered the "compromise of choice" by giving the largest target area with the highest probability of instant shut-down.

    I've enjoyed trigger-time with a couple of U.S. Air Marshals (great guys, great shots!). We tied three 10" helium balloons on 3' strings, one green (hostage) and two red (hijackers), to an RC off-road, scale race car. The game was to shoot both red balloons without popping the green one as the other guy drove the car bouncing, dodging & reversing through a gravel pit. When you popped the green one, the other guy then got to shoot & you got to drive. Y'all would be surprised how many green balloons got killed. Honestly, it's not a shot upon which I ever want to bet my life.
    Exactly! Or the life of another...

    And, no it doesn't require a physical hit... maybe. But even snipers with a .50 won't take the shot that would obliterate the brain if the bg's finger is on the trigger and the BG's gun against the head of a hostage...

    That's the whole purpose of my exercise...

    Your loved one is in the hands of a killer...gun against their head. You come upon the scene, gun drawn, and you chose to shoot or give the man an out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    Your loved one is in the hands of a killer...gun against their head. You come upon the scene, gun drawn, and you chose to shoot or give the man an out...
    If it's my mother-in-law, I'm aiming for...his knee.
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    Oh yeah. Later extend it to the upper torso. Combat Anatomy so to speak.
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    Okay guys, here's the first video...

    Just a revolving head, which becomes transparent in order to show the brain, and of course, the MO. This is a low resolution video... but the camera view is from ~<6 feet in the air (about eyeball level). The head is about 12 feet away, at sitting height (about 48 inches, IIRC to top of head)

    No "targets" yet... and some anomalies in his skin, which I'm working on...

    Without further yammering:



    Hey, comment on this here, or in You tube, or both (but I prefer here, 'cause I don't go to youtube every day) I don't care... but I would like some input. Let me know what you think.
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    You should give it a shot [ pun intended]

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    Update:

    Meet Mook. He's gonna be our target... now I've upgraded him a bit... more resolution, more realism... a couple of scars and a tat or two from his time in the joint. Still in need of some more detail work... But will be able to add some targets soon.

    enjoy!

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    Ok guys, I need feedback!

    Is there still interest in this?

    The reason I ask is that it takes a lot of time, and some blood, sweat, and tears to do this...

    12 seconds of video, as seen here; takes time to render, to say nothing of the time required to tweak the model.

    I'm enjoying the work, and believe that once targets are assigned to the face, in different poses and angles, it really will show some interesting and perhaps surprising results.

    Want me to press on, or have you seen enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    Ok guys, I need feedback!

    Is there still interest in this?

    The reason I ask is that it takes a lot of time, and some blood, sweat, and tears to do this...

    12 seconds of video, as seen here; takes time to render, to say nothing of the time required to tweak the model.

    I'm enjoying the work, and believe that once targets are assigned to the face, in different poses and angles, it really will show some interesting and perhaps surprising results.

    Want me to press on, or have you seen enough?
    It's looking great so far, and I would love to see it finished.
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