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    Wow.

    I'll bet when you all came to this forum you thought it was about guns. Surprise, surprise, the bell is just about to ring for sixth grade English class.

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    This thread is amazing. I can't believe it's still going. I guess a lot of us needed a little break from the seriousness, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    For me, an F.B.I. agent sounds correct... But, according to the spelling-it-out notion, a F.B.I. agent would be right
    Would it not be correct to say "An F.B.I agent"because F is pronounced "ef" therefore it starts with a vowel sound?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    It's a LEO.
    It's a historic event. Unless you write with an English accent. "istoric"

    Now, I suppose you could make an argument for LEO needing an as the indefinite article, if you were saying "I saw an EL EE OH sleeping in his squad car." But don't you use the acronym for police officer like a word... as in "Leo, the lion?"

    So, from now on... A LEO, okay?

    And, A historic, too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfries View Post
    Would it not be correct to say "An F.B.I agent"because F is pronounced "ef" therefore it starts with a vowel sound?
    Yes
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    Y the consern, huked on fonics has always wurked 4 me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zacii View Post
    'An FBI agent' would be correct, because it's relative to the word 'agent', rather than the 'FBI' .



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    I believe that's the LEAPFROG rule... and does not apply in this case...

    Proof? An FBI team member ... sounds better than A FBI team member.

    Quote Originally Posted by pfries View Post
    Would it not be correct to say "An F.B.I agent"because F is pronounced "ef" therefore it starts with a vowel sound?
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    Yes
    But earlier we talked about the "spell-it-out rule".... "A Federal Bureau of Investigation team member" sounds fine... but it quite working when we use the abbreviation or the acronym. An FBI team member...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    It's a LEO.
    It's a historic event. Unless you write with an English accent. "istoric"

    Now, I suppose you could make an argument for LEO needing an as the indefinite article, if you were saying "I saw an EL EE OH sleeping in his squad car." But don't you use the acronym for police officer like a word... as in "Leo, the lion?"

    So, from now on... A LEO, okay?

    And, A historic, too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zacii View Post
    'An FBI agent' would be correct, because it's relative to the word 'agent', rather than the 'FBI' .
    This is incorrect, as has been pointed out. The word FOLLOWING the word after the "a" or "an" has no bearing on whether you should use "a" or "an."

    "A blue umbrella" uses an "a" even though it is "relative" to the word "umbrella," rather than the word "blue."
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    Originally Posted by zacii
    'An FBI agent' would be correct, because it's relative to the word 'agent', rather than the 'FBI' .




    Quote Originally Posted by OPFOR View Post
    This is incorrect, as has been pointed out. The word FOLLOWING the word after the "a" or "an" has no bearing on whether you should use "a" or "an."

    "A blue umbrella" uses an "a" even though it is "relative" to the word "umbrella," rather than the word "blue."
    The way it should work:
    If you read it as "an eF-Be-Eye agent..." this is correct.
    If as "a Federal Bureau of Investigation agent..." this is correct.
    It is all in the pronunciation of the first letter or number and if it is pronounced as a vowel use "an" or a constant use "a".
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    Read the hacked history of the "Grammar Nazi Party". It includes a reference to the use of a pistol, for those who whould ask "why is this on a gun forum?".
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    Quote Originally Posted by dV8r View Post
    The way it should work:
    If you read it as "an eF-Be-Eye agent..." this is correct.
    If as "a Federal Bureau of Investigation agent..." this is correct.
    It is all in the pronunciation of the first letter or number and if it is pronounced as a vowel use "an" or a constant use "a".
    Again....no. Not fully, anyway.

    There is no way to "read" FBI as anything other than FBI. The word "agent" has absolutely nothing to do with it. There may be some confusion with abbreviations that are sometimes acronyms (spoken as if they were a word) and sometimes pure abbreviations (each letter spoken individually) such as LEO (which is what started all this), but FBI is never spoken as "fabee" (although I have on occasion referred to them as "Feebs," but don't tell anyone), and thus, since you ALWAYS say Eff Bee Eye, you would ALWAYS say "an FBI agent" or "team member" or "sniper" or whatever. The following word is irrelevant. When pronouncing the letter F, we start with a vowel sound. Thus, we use "an." That's really all there is to it.
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    OK, since we are on a topic of grammar and spelling I have a question. Why do some people actually spend time typing in meaningless body sounds like "Hmmm" and "umm" in their posts, but they do not bother to try and spell out other bodily sounds? Are they inconsistant, or just lazy? (BBWWaaaaaaawwwwrrrrrbbbbbbbssssssssssplarrrbbb! ) Excuse me! I had better check my shorts.
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    Because "hmm" and "umm" aren't body sounds, they are non-verbal cues and communicate specific meanings, sometimes with a nuance that might not be easily translated in words. As in "Hmm, that's a silly post."
    A man fires a rifle for many years, and he goes to war. And afterward he turns the rifle in at the armory, and he believes he's finished with the rifle. But no matter what else he might do with his hands - love a woman, build a house, change his son's diaper - his hands remember the rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
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