James Bond's PPK was "junk"

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    Hmmm, okay I was reading about Fleming

    On Wikipedia Guns of James Bond

    Which had this little gem
    In a December 1964 interview with Playboy Magazine Fleming admitted that he was not an expert in the field and “Quite honestly, the whole question of expertise in these matters bores me. Obviously, I want to know the facts. If a Gaylord holster is better than a Berns-Martin, I want to know about it, but there is where my interest rather ends." The reference would be to the holsters of Chic Gaylord, a well-known holster maker of the period who in fact DID make shoulder holsters to suit Fleming's choice of pistol for Bond, the Walther PPK
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    We're suppose to listen to a former writer for the Washington Post word on guns? That's like listening to Madonna giving a talk on virginity!
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    If you've read the books, Fleming actually was pretty ignorant when it came to firearms. Stephen Hunter has written some of the best books for gun enthusiast in years (the Bob Lee Swagger series)

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    If I recall, Flemming asked for advice from a Brit soldier of some sort and that genleman urged him to issue a revolver to 007. In the books didn't Bond start off with a .25 or a .32???

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    If I recall, Flemming asked for advice from a Brit soldier of some sort and that genleman urged him to issue a revolver to 007. In the books didn't Bond start off with a .25 or a .32???

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    From my understanding, the PPK Bond carried was a 7.65, or .32 ACP. As he was British, and working for MI6, they would have used the European designation. I'm always amused at people that assume that he would have used a .380.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matthew03 View Post
    Didn't Han state that the Lightsaber was obsolete?

    Just saying. By the way Fleming was OSS.
    OSS was American predecessor of the CIA. Fleming was British MI5 or MI6, whatever they had in WWII.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    OSS was American predecessor of the CIA. Fleming was British MI5 or MI6, whatever they had in WWII.
    You are correct sir:


    Ian Fleming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    While working in British Naval Intelligence during Second World War, Fleming was involved in the planning stages of Operation Mincemeat and Operation Golden Eye. He was also involved in the planning and oversight of two intelligence units, 30 Assault Unit and T-Force. His wartime service and his career as a journalist provided much of the background, detail and depth of the James Bond novels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    If I recall, Flemming asked for advice from a Brit soldier of some sort and that genleman urged him to issue a revolver to 007. In the books didn't Bond start off with a .25 or a .32???
    I think Bond had the .25 Beretta....Flemming used a .25 Browning during WWII so that may have influenced his choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3wggl View Post
    I think Bond had the .25 Beretta....Flemming used a .25 Browning during WWII so that may have influenced his choice.
    At some point he switched to the PPK, and that was the point at which he moved to the 7.65 Browning caliber.

    I think. It should be noted that I've never read the books, I'm going off historical info on the PPK that I've picked up over the years
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    If I recall, Flemming asked for advice from a Brit soldier of some sort and that genleman urged him to issue a revolver to 007. In the books didn't Bond start off with a .25 or a .32???

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    This is what I was thinking of:

    Letters of Note: May I suggest that Mr. Bond be armed with a revolver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    If I recall, Flemming asked for advice from a Brit soldier of some sort and that genleman urged him to issue a revolver to 007. In the books didn't Bond start off with a .25 or a .32???

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    I believe it was the Beretta 418, in .25. Then went to the Walther PPK .32ACP.
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    PPK criticism

    I've owned a .380 Walther PPK for about 14 years and have put maybe 1000 rounds through it. Once in awhile I have carried it. I don't really agree with this writer's criticism of the gun. My evaluation is:

    1. Trigger pull - the first DA pull is a little heavier than I like, but the subsequent SA pull is very good.
    2. Accuracy - the gun is surprisingly accurate, and has small but useful sights.
    3. Recoil - the recoil is not bad at all, and certainly less than lighter weight .380 guns.
    4. Sharp slide edge - I have never received a slide cut while shooting the gun. I think this depends on the configuration of your hand and how you hold the gun.
    5. Concealability - first rate, the gun is small and slim, and conceals very easily.
    6. Looks - a very attractive gun.
    7. Quality of construction - very well made, typical of Walther.
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    Ah, the Washington Post. It, along with the New York Times, remains one of the last bastions of unobjective truth.

    They are where I get my firearms reviews.

    In truth, I am surprised that they had a story like that at all, much less have a true "expert" on staff.

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    Had I a PPK while still a lawman it would have been one of my backup choices.
    As I recall, (removes stetson) Skeeter Skelton (replaces Stetson) carried one as a backup.
    German police carried it as their primary sidearm and I believe it was also German military issue during the second disagreement.
    Has to have something going for it ...
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    The DA pull can be lightened up if desired. The SA pull is usually quite crisp & sweet.
    Very good accuracy due to fixed barrel.
    Fairly heavy for the magazine capacity & caliber.
    Break the sharp edges on the slide...that is a quick 15 Minute "fix" of the bite issue.
    Some folks without good hand strength have a difficult time operating the slide.
    You can safely move to a lighter recoil spring weight without beating up the gun.
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