Dog box / crate

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    Dog box / crate

    I have two dogs, one of which needs to be confined when we're not home. She's a 60# bulldog mix, and loves to get in the garbage and other trouble. She has done well in her crate, as long as my other dog stays with her (in the same room). Over the years she has broken out of multiple dog cages. The steel wire style cages lasted about a week. I've had really good luck with a Remington brand dog crate from Tractor Supply, which lasted almost 3 years. Unfortunately I got a text message this morning that she got out again, breaking off the latch. Remington does not sell replacement parts, so I'd be stuck buying a new one. They aren't horribly expensive (under $100), but I wonder if there is something else out there that is better. I've looked at the metal dog box setups from Dee Zee and Owens, but at $400+ I really would like to stick to something closer to the Remington. What do you keep your dog in for "safe keeping"?
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    Go to A Metal fab. shop if you have one close to home and have them build you a crate.

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    I've always disliked crates. For my dogs, I've slowly trained them to get used to me being gone for a few hours. I dog-proof the house as much as possible, and leave them something to chew on. Maybe I've just been very lucky, but I've had only a small amount of damage occur while I've been gone.

    It sounds like your dog is having quite a bit of anxiety. Rather than getting a stronger crate, I'd try to address the anxiety issues somehow, and then hopefully you won't ever need to bother with a crate again......

    I apologize if I am sounding overly critical, but you did ask for opinions. It's your dog and your house, and I wish you the best of luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killingjoke View Post
    Go to A Metal fab. shop if you have one close to home and have them build you a crate.
    that's what i would do. especially because the closest fab shop to me is in my garage.
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    Forget the crate; schedule a session with Ceasar.
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    I got a 36" one made by Aspen Pet at Cabela's for like $90 for my Australian Shepherd pup. He can't get out of it and my girlfriend's 70lb GSD can't either.

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    Vet told me to give the dog some benadryl (sp) on night when we get heavy storms. Dog sleeps like a baby.
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    My wife and I rescue pit bulls and have found over the years that bully breeds are very good at getting out of pretty much anything they don't want to be in lol.

    Anyway, I would suggest what I did for our outside kennels. Get some horse panels (sold at Tractor Supply) and build the crates what ever size you want. The panels are made of 4 gauge rod and I've yet to see a dog be able to break them. You can use pretty much any kind of tubing for the frame of the crate. I used 2 inch square tubing for the frame work and for building the doors, then welded the panels to all of the frame.

    I know it sounds a little over kill but after seeing how easily a bully breed dog can mangle up those wire crates and regular fence kennels I wanted something that would last.

    One last thing, lots and lots of exercise will really help a lot in keeping there destruction to a minimum. When bully's get bored, that's when they start playing with things you don't want them to (tearing things up) lol.

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    I have the same problem with our beagle. He does not like to be confined. He has destroyed 4 or 5 of those wire kennels. We have decided to build him a pen outside to stay in while we are gone. I feel bad about leaving him outside, because hes a spoiled sissy housepet, but I will get him a heated dog house. I can't have him destroying our house.

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    Good luck, I have a GS that seems to be able to tear anything apart if she wants.... have seen her bend things that she shouldn't be able to bend at all. Frustrating.
    So, I began leaving the door open, and she'll lay there and stay there.... if the door is open.
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    No comment other than the dogs will act accordingly = as trained and no issues. Disclaimer: I've trained them from very young (with no negative reinforcment), so no outside or before issues. They have one primary mission = to Protect and to Serve.

    Wild dogs often go 1 to 3 days (in the wild) without eating. Train them as such and allow them to guard thier home. Reward often with positive reinforcment. Train them to wistle, voice and hand commands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevy-SS View Post
    I've always disliked crates. For my dogs, I've slowly trained them to get used to me being gone for a few hours. I dog-proof the house as much as possible, and leave them something to chew on. Maybe I've just been very lucky, but I've had only a small amount of damage occur while I've been gone.

    It sounds like your dog is having quite a bit of anxiety. Rather than getting a stronger crate, I'd try to address the anxiety issues somehow, and then hopefully you won't ever need to bother with a crate again......

    I apologize if I am sounding overly critical, but you did ask for opinions. It's your dog and your house, and I wish you the best of luck.
    No apology necessary. I'd much rather not to have to put her in the crate, as my other dog has been trained to be on his own without any problems. I rescued this dog about 4 years ago, and have spent a great deal of time working with her to unlearn all the things her previous owners did. She's turned out to be a really good dog, and usually prefers being in the enclosed crate, and even runs into the crate when she sees me getting ready to leave for work. I think its partially an anxiety thing of being afraid of being left there, as well as some amount of restlessness and boredom as TinKnocker points out. In the mean time of continuing to work with her, I don't really feel I have a choice but to use the crate for those times when we aren't home.
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    Where a crate may sound cruel to a human, dogs are cave animals and often feel quite secure in a crate.

    Anxiety is another issue. They can be head-cases, just like us. I don't crate mine, but had a problem where he'd chew on himself. After trouble-shooting multiple fictitious skin ailments, we realized that it was just a nervous habit. To break the cycle, we broke up his routine. We took him grocery shopping with us, scheduled a family vacation where he could come along, I'd take him anywhere I could with me, and he cured himself.

    Anyway, I wouldn't feel bad about putting her in a better crate. But also see what sort of additional exercise/stimuli that you can get her?
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    You try giving him a big beef bone to chew on, right?

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    Had a golden that would freak out everytime we had a thunderstorm. I mean damage the house freakout. Tried drugs, immursion therapy, etc.. but we had to crate him when we left the house as well. He destroyed and escaped from every crate we had and caused himself bodily harm while doing it. Went through 4-5 crates in which the kennel where I bought them said they were excape proof. He eventually died trying to escape his kennel during a thunderstorm while we were not home. Pried the lower door hatch off and tried to push his way out of the half open door. The kennel flipped over on him and broke his neck. It was one of the saddest things I have ever seen when we got home. Luckily, I saw him first and closed the door so the my wife and daughters did not see him until I made it "more presentable".
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