"The good ole boy network" AKA the real world.

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    Re: "The good ole boy network" AKA the real world.

    Indeed, the good ole boy network still exists and always will. I learned at a young age that who you know is just as important (if not more) as what you know.

    I know there's a lot of talk on here about avoiding stupid places like bars, but I've made amazing contacts from visiting them and socializing with "older" gentleman there and have landed great work by doing so and have also expanded my personal business by doing so. Now, of course, these aren't Hood bars either..

    Networking sure does pay off. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by blitzburgh View Post
    ....I know there's a lot of talk on here about avoiding stupid places like bars, but I've made amazing contacts from visiting them and socializing with "older" gentleman there and have landed great work by doing so and have also expanded my personal business by doing so. ...
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    Very true, Timmy. The folks that I hired usually didn't need a resume, because I was the one that called them up and recruited them. That's how I was usually recruited and hired as well.

    It always amuses me when I hear folks with facial jewelry, or extreme haircuts, etc.. claim that it has never hurt their career. I've seen careers destroyed by poor manners at the dinner table, or winning a golf game that they should have lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanlouise View Post
    That might work for a little while but as we get more and more technological, social media will become just part of the routine when hiring. If an employer asks to see your HS transcripts then you have to show them. Same will be with requiring prospective employees to give their FB password so the employer can check them out. You can always say no and walk away but eventually you may run out of options.

    My son is a Criminal Justice major and one of his instructors scared the bejezus out of the class by giving examples of instances where people were denied clearances because of what they had posted on FB. He came home and deleted his FB account. He wasn't going to take the chance, even though he mostly talks about football on FB.

    As the others have said, what you say and what you do follow you in ways you can't imagine.
    Delete what you've posted on facebook, even easier. I know how it works, believe me. Hell, I can use Tor and hide my browsing habits if I want.

    Jobs requiring facebook passwords needs to be illegal, like how my state bars polygraphs (antiquated nonsense) because it's a huge invasion of privacy.

    Drug tests need to go too, but American drug paranoia won't let it. It's not allowed in Canada, they've got it right on that issue.

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    Yeah, Canada is who we want to model ourselves after. No offense OneCanuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad426 View Post
    Yeah, Canada is who we want to model ourselves after. No offense OneCanuck.
    On that issue we should, for sure. More freedom is better.

    As for the tech issue, people with a LOT of resources can do anything/break into anything/find out anything. Most employers aren't going that far though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaveJohnson View Post
    On that issue we should, for sure. More freedom is better.

    As for the tech issue, people with a LOT of resources can do anything/break into anything/find out anything. Most employers aren't going that far though.
    You never answered my question. Is it 22 or 23 years old?

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    Quote Originally Posted by atctimmy View Post
    You never answered my question. Is it 22 or 23 years old?
    You're wrong about the age, it's neither. Keep going up.

    I never answered it because I didn't bother answering the post, nor did I have an obligation to. I have principles on privacy and am not a fan of prying employers who want to dictate employees lives off the clock, sorry. I don't care if it's the way of the world, I don't like it and I don't want to be a part of it.

    Maybe I'd sell out for a huge pay raise, but I doubt it. Reading about the CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch reminds me of those employers, micromanaging and obsessive down to minute details.

    tl;dr my age is of no consequence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaveJohnson View Post
    You're wrong about the age, it's neither. Keep going up.

    I never answered it because I didn't bother answering the post, nor did I have an obligation to. I have principles on privacy and am not a fan of prying employers who want to dictate employees lives off the clock, sorry. I don't care if it's the way of the world, I don't like it and I don't want to be a part of it.

    Maybe I'd sell out for a huge pay raise, but I doubt it. Reading about the CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch reminds me of those employers, micromanaging and obsessive down to minute details.

    tl;dr my age is of no consequence.
    Fair enough, I'm wrong about your age.

    I would like to point out though that having a job is selling out. You are selling out your time in exchange for a pay check. It only makes sense to sell your time to the highest bidder (within reason).

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    I guess I am now one of the "GOB's" and we definitely work that way. If one of my buddies give me the green light then you have passed about 65% of the hurdles from the get go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atctimmy View Post
    Fair enough, I'm wrong about your age.

    I would like to point out though that having a job is selling out. You are selling out your time in exchange for a pay check. It only makes sense to sell your time to the highest bidder (within reason).
    Yeah, I understand that. Getting into my privacy crosses a bit of a line for me though. Drug tests bother me the most, even when it'll come back clean it crosses that line for me. They're also incredibly easy to beat and basically a scam.

    I've never really had a great employer, so I kind of dislike most employers. I got in trouble with a few in my younger days because I refused to be a kiss-ass or doormat too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaveJohnson View Post
    Drug tests bother me the most, even when it'll come back clean it crosses that line for me. They're also incredibly easy to beat and basically a scam.
    Why do they bother you? If you don't take drugs, what's the problem? I had to be drug tested for my job and it wasn't an issue.
    It's very much your prospective employers business to make sure he isn't hiring a druggie. He has too much time and money tied up in a new hire. It's an easy way to stop a problem before it starts.
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    The FAA also requires manufacturers of commercial aircraft components and assemblies to test their manufacturing personnel for drugs. The tests might be
    incredibly easy to beat and basically a scam
    but I guess that memo hasn't made it to everyone's desk. We still manage to lose a few workers a year.
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    CJ, as I said in previous threads, good luck with the drug thing. Timmy posted some wise and sage advise. My sense is your not a very good listener (or reader in this case). My suggestion to you, as I made in the other thread is for you to move to Canada or the EU. Despite your age, what ever it might be, I sense you have some maturing to do. Trust me, I've met some 50 year olds in that situation but very rarely.. Most wise up or drop out. What will you be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    The FAA also requires manufacturers of commercial aircraft components and assemblies to test their manufacturing personnel for drugs. The tests might be but I guess that memo hasn't made it to everyone's desk. We still manage to lose a few workers a year.
    There are some positions it may make sense for, but your average office worker?

    How does my position, shared by many, reflect on my maturity exactly? I'm not moving either, and that tends to be the cop out response.

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