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    One thing's true: there's no cream-filled center on this one.

    Merry Christmas.
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    Re: Twinkies are dead!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty901 View Post
    They showed the greedy Capitalist owner they shut that place down that will show them who is boss.
    Which is EXACTLY what the greedy Capitalist owner wanted...
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    Rats!
    It could be worse!
    I suppose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    re: Part in bold--- Which does not happen when a business is repeatedly sold in a series of
    leveraged buyouts. The stockholder loses when the musical chairs stop and the company ends up in
    bankruptcy court. Its a game of musical chairs except its rigged so the winner is known ahead of time.
    The losers too are known ahead of time; the ordinary stockholder and the ordinary worker. These two
    have much more in common than one might think at first blush, victimization by financial scoundrels.
    Stockholders are unsecured creditors. They willing accept the potental for higher returns in exchange for an unsecured status. With the GM bankruptcy the losers are not known ahead of time. The bond holders a.k.a. as secure creditors according to bankruptcy law (dating back to the 1800s in the U.S.) are first in line when it comes to ownership status. Ordinary workers do not have an ownership status in the company although they are essential for the organization to be a going concern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanlouise View Post
    There are a LOT of things bad for you that people have no problem with. Next time you have a scotch on the rocks remember that you're drinking something bad for you.
    One man's Twinkie is another man's Scotch.
    Which is why I drink Bourbon...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caertaker View Post
    Stockholders are unsecured creditors. They willing accept the potental for higher returns in exchange for an unsecured status. With the GM bankruptcy the losers are not known ahead of time. The bond holders a.k.a. as secure creditors according to bankruptcy law (dating back to the 1800s in the U.S.) are first in line when it comes to ownership status. Ordinary workers do not have an ownership status in the company although they are essential for the organization to be a going concern.
    The point I was attempting to make, perhaps not well enough, is that the take over artists don't care
    about the equity of the stockholders; they care about extracting value from the organization and transferring
    that value elswehere-- something that
    can only happen at the expense of the other prior stockholders, the bondholders, the creditors, and the workers too.

    That is the core problem with hostile takeovers which are accomplished with heavy leverage (borrowed money).
    Remember, you can gain management control of a company with only a very small % of the outstanding shares.
    You don't need to own 50% +, in fact that almost never happens. We have some very serious problem in our country,
    and throughout the world, with corporate governance.
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    there goes another reason for not keeping all those emply ammo cans.......

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    There maybe hope for twinkies

    See Link: Will Twinkies prove a sweet deal for Mexican billionaire? | Fox News

    But you'll need to learn Spanish! A Bimbo Twinkie? A Bimbo Ding Dong? Anyone else see the humor?


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    Quote Originally Posted by onacoma View Post
    See Link: Will Twinkies prove a sweet deal for Mexican billionaire? | Fox News

    But you'll need to learn Spanish! A Bimbo Twinkie? A Bimbo Ding Dong? Anyone else see the humor?
    Yup, what's the shelf life of salsa?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    Let me think out loud here a sec. They have an array of iconic products, not just Twinkies but
    bread, pies, donuts, and more. The products are in high demand as judged from some of the comments
    here and personal experience as a shopper, yet they claim they can't operate profitably.

    It doesn't make sense.

    I smell a rat.



    ^^^^^The deal is^^^^^^^^^^^^

    That the company exec's want an even bigger piece of the Pie(no pun intended) only claiming that operating expenses and employee payroll was too much to bear, and they wanted a concession from the employees (to get their bigger piece of the pie) just like the Big Three and many , many other globally huge companies,(and even some small ones) only their employees wern't buying any of that.
    Now the company is picking up its ball and going home.
    Yes, they will most likely sell the rights to manufacture, to the highest bidder, only they should be forced to pay it to the bankrupcy courts, instead of line their pockets.
    Yep, and maybe tomorow the sun will not rise.

    Welcome to the NWO.
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    Ding Dong burritos, and Twinkie Tacos!!!!!
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    Should and would...Life is not always fair...and paying $30 for a box of Twinkies on ebay is not fair either, but is happening. Just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneshot View Post
    Yes, they will most likely sell the rights to manufacture, to the highest bidder, only they should be forced to pay it to the bankruptcy courts, instead of line their pockets.
    Here is a thought - why don't the employees put their money together and buy the company? That way it they own the company and they can pay themselves what the think is correct for the work they put into the business! I've seen employee buy out that work! Kiewit Companies is a +2 billion a year company and only the employees can own shares! Kiewit been in business over a 130 years and help build Boulder/Hoover Dam!

    But for now it looks like we're getting Guacamole Twinkies!


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    A friend of mine (in tribute to the mighty twinkie) built an exact copy of Stonehenge out of twinkies...now twice a year (Summer and Winter Solstice) if you line it up just right you can see the Moonpie.
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    Wonder bread, Ho-Ho's, Sno Balls, Twinkies, Ding Dongs ... No new products in decades. No healthier updating done on existing products. Little change but added debt loads and stiff necks all around (from investors, managers, to finance geeks, staffers). Everyone wanted a slice of a pie that had been shrinking and going stale. The only "wonder" is: why it took so long.

    Quote Originally Posted by onacoma View Post
    Here is a thought - why don't the employees put their money together and buy the company?
    Someone will come in with an asset-only sale, scooping up the sweetest parts (recipe rights, trademarks, useful equipment) but leaving the rest to rot. It'll just need to pass the sniff test in bankruptcy court.

    In a way, they've all concocted a new recipe for the books: Humble Pie. A rehashed oldie-but-goodie.
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