Oops! - Flying Camera From Animal Rights Group Shot Down at Pigeon Shoot

This is a discussion on Oops! - Flying Camera From Animal Rights Group Shot Down at Pigeon Shoot within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by bigmacque If I were in an area that has been cleared for shooting, and the area is known to me well and ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmacque View Post
    If I were in an area that has been cleared for shooting, and the area is known to me well and known to be an area in which there is shooting going on, and that drone is flying in the same space into which I am shooting pigeons/clays/whatever, then yes, I would shoot it. And I'm not calling you a wuss, I think your points are thoughtful and well made, but different than mine. I'll not make this about the SHARK folks if you don't make it about you and me, personally.

    And if the SHARK folks get hit because they put themselves into the line of fire when they know shooting is going on, then they have some responsibility regarding the situation, smart or not.

    I'll answer your question yes or no: given the details of my statement above, yes.
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    Hrm... I seem to remember a definition of stupid that read to the effect of: Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...
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    The pigeon was only colateral damage.
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    I fly drones and with all the Wiz Bang functions, in flight failures can happen.

    The largest weighs nearly 14 lbs and if something happens, it's coming down hard and fast.

    The reason I never fly over or near people

    I don't hunt anymore but if someone decided to fly over my property to get the goods on me, I could take it up again.

    We're getting into a whole 'nother area of expectation of privacy with technology that was only available to the military a few years ago

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    I'll put it this way, I'd be so steamed at the thought of the SHARKies interrupting my Pigeon Shoot on behalf of the damned pigeons that they should be happy I shot the drone and didn't pepper...the pilot.

    You don't see me paragliding slabs of barbecued pork ribs into their picnic, now do ya'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost tracker View Post
    I'll put it this way, I'd be so steamed at the thought of the SHARKies interrupting my Pigeon Shoot on behalf of the damned pigeons that they should be happy I shot the drone and didn't pepper...the pilot.

    You don't see me paragliding slabs of barbecued pork ribs into their picnic, now do ya'?
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    Oops! - Flying Camera From Animal Rights Group Shot Down at Pigeon Shoot

    Quote Originally Posted by ghost tracker View Post
    How far up (in altitude) do an owner's property rights go? What's the elevation limit of trespassing?
    I have no idea. However as a pilot we are required to remain 500 feet above persons and property in a sparsely populated area and above 1000 feet in a densely populated area. Unless of course we are taking off or landing. I do know that the FAA can forbid you from building an "obstruction" if it were to interfere with the landing or takeoff path.
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    So I think one aspect is missing from the discusion on how safe it was to shoot the drone. This is still an assumption, but I am going to assume that the drone had at least a decent elevation, causing a trajectory for the shot to be at a decent angle. They are probably shooting birdshot, right? So by the time you get the trajectory of the shot, and how far away the people had to be to not be seen in the line of fire, even if the pellets were to come down on them, they would be in no danger.

    Unless of course it was a rifle like the article said. That would be a different story.
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    Well, again, if I was a Pigeon Shoot organizer and suspected their MIGHT be an uninvited drone-guest visit. I just MIGHT clue-up at least one well-experienced, long-distance goose hunter to bring "drone appropriate" equipment.
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    OK, here the deal. This was in a very remote area. The land belonged to a shooting club. The drone and the pilots were trespassing on private property. This is no different than your wife sunbathing in her fenced back yard and the drone flying over and videoing her while piloting the drone from your driveway. The pilots knew they were in an area where shooting was taking place, a remote area they had no reason to be in. I see no danger to anyone being shot by anyone firing at the drone, high in the air, from a rifle. Remote area, remember? Maybe a drone shoot would be more fun than live pigeons, perhaps a deal could be struck between the parties. $4000 cameras wouldn't be required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
    Where are the animal rights people when they kill chickens to eat? Beef, pigs, sheep (baaa) these are raised for food and are killed. Are they concerned about the ones that are not killed cleanly? Pigeons are considered on an even footing with rats in most places. Overpopulated and causing damage and disease. Like feral hogs I don't want to see any more domestic pigeons raised and released.

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    Not gonna lie... probably would have shot the thing.
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