North Korea says nuclear test successful (merge)

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    First off, I'm waiting for someone to confirm that it was a nuclear blast and not some large conventional explosion. But assuming it is a nuke, what's the situation?

    Let's see, the rogue (?) Pakistani scientist sold them the plans for the plutonium bomb (N. Korea could never have devised that on their own), the Communist Chinese gave or sold the nuclear trigger (again, they don't have the technological infrastructure to manufacture one on their own) and the Clinton administration gave them the Light Water Reactor technology necessary to produce the plutonium (I think they have uranium deposits in N. Korea, if not then someone sold/gave that to them as well). The Middle Eastern sponsored terrorists have money and oil but no nuclear bombs, and the lunatic despot dictator of N. Korea has no oil or money.

    And we can't go in and take care of this militarily because it would make the Chicoms and the UN upset.

    OK, my advice is to read up on the nuclear survivalist books and avoid large cities or their downwind areas.

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    NK threatens to fire a nuclear weapon

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,219121,00.html

    U.S. Vows Not to Be Intimidated by North Korean Threats

    Tuesday , October 10, 2006




    NEW YORK — The U.S. vowed not to be intimidated by North Korean threats Tuesday after Pyongyang reportedly said it could fire a nuclear warhead if Washington did not act to resolve the standoff.

    "This is the way North Korea typically negotiates by threat and intimidation," John Bolton, U.S. ambassador to the U.N., said. "It's worked for them before. It won't work for them now."

    Meanwhile, the White House said the world may never be able to confirm North Korea's claim that it had successfully tested a nuclear weapon on Monday. White House press secretary Tony Snow suggested that the test may not have been nuclear in nature.

    "You could have something that is very old and off-the-shelf here, as well, in which case they've dusted off something that is old and dormant," he said. Snow said the intelligence community would continue to assess the explosion.

    The latest North Korean threat came in a report by the country's Yonhap news agency. "We hope the situation will be resolved before an unfortunate incident of us firing a nuclear missile comes," it quoted an unidentified North Korean official as saying. "That depends on how the U.S. will act."

    The official said the nuclear test was "an expression of our intention to face the United States across the negotiating table."

    China's patience with its longtime ally North Korea appeared to be wearing thin as Beijing warned Pyongyang that its staging of a nuclear test would harm the two countries' relations.

    Fears of a new regional nuclear arms race eased when Japan's leader said his nation still had no intention of seeking atomic weapons.

    China's Foreign Ministry said North Korea's nuclear test would damage ties between the allies who sided against American-led U.N. forces in the Korean War.

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    "The nuclear test will undoubtedly exert a negative impact on our relations," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao told reporters.

    But Liu added that China is "firmly against" a military strike against the North.

    "Taking military action against North Korea would be unimaginable," he said.

    China also has long opposed sanctions sought by countries such as the United States, which is pressing for potentially crippling new measures against Pyongyang.

    A permanent U.N. Security Council member, China has a decisive say over how stern a punishment the international community can mete out to North Korea.

    A South Korean envoy, returning to Seoul from Beijing, said Tuesday that China appeared to be leaning toward backing strong U.N. measures.

    Alexander Vershbow, the U.S. ambassador to South Korea, told reporters that the nuclear test would make the possibility of direct talks between Washington and Pyongyang more difficult, Yonhap reported.

    The U.N. Security Council was weighing a U.S. proposal for potentially crippling sanctions. America has asked the council to adopt a measure that would aim to curb the North's nuclear and ballistic missile programs, prohibit all trade in military and luxury goods, and crack down on illegal financial dealings.

    There have been worries that the reported nuclear test would prompt Japan to build its own bomb. But Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe told lawmakers Japan's anti-nuclear policy would remain unchanged.

    "There will be no change in our non-nuclear arms principles," Abe said.

    Japan's pacifist constitution bars the use of force to settle international disputes, and Japan has maintained a policy of not producing, possessing or using nuclear weapons.

    South Korea said that it believed the North had exploded a nuclear device on Monday, but officials claimed that it might take up to two weeks to confirm whether the test was successful.

    Although the reported test drew worldwide condemnation and talk of harsh sanctions, the South said it would stick with its efforts to engage the North, though the policy would be reviewed.

    Click here to go to FOXNews.com's North Korea Center.

    North Korea celebrated a holiday Tuesday marking the 61st anniversary of the Workers' Party of Korea. There was no traffic across a key bridge on a border river between China and North Korea.

    China canceled leave for its soldiers along the North Korean border and some units were conducting anti-chemical weapons drills, the pro-Beijing Wen Wei Po reported in Hong Kong. The paper didn't elaborate.

    There was no sign of heightened security in the Chinese border city of Dandung, and reporters saw two boatloads of North Korean tourists on the river, smiling and waving to people on the Chinese shore.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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    North Korea wants to send a NUKE Missile sailing over here to the United States.

    I don't know what the parking situation is like in South Korea but, North Korea should make up into a really nice parking lot for the South Koreans once we get the entire Northern area properly flattened.
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    Fox News keeps asking if the threat of firing a missile is credible.

    Uhhhh..... let's see: They've been testing ballistic trajectories on their missiles for close to 5 years now. They've finished developing a land-based cruise missile which is supposed to be nuclear capable.... Yeah, I would say their threats are very credible. They don't have to be accurate, either. All it takes is a rudimentry guidance system and just target it at Los Angeles, Seattle, or anyplace between Boston and Washington, D.C.... Time to bust out those old civil defense books on nuclear disastors. Maybe a survival handbook, too.

    They may have between 3 and 7 weapons. I don't want to gamble on the higher end.
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    Reports today state the explosion was very small for a nuke, on the order of 550 - 1000 tons of TNT (1/2 to 1 Kiloton) about one twentieth to 1 tenth (1/20 - 1/10) of the bombs we dropped on Japan, which would indicate a failed test. Still no radioactive evidence, and if N. Korea really wanted to demonstrate its nuclear capability, they would have conducted an atmospheric test. I'm smelling a possible con here.

    I still think the best deterrent would be to state that any nuclear attack on the USA, our friends, allies or strategic interests would be considered an act of war by N. Korea and Iran & they would be the first targets of retaliation in kind, but not limited in magnitude. We would investigate after the fact to confirm, but there would be no delays in response.

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    Let's see it's "Duck and Cover" right? and don't look at the fireball.

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    I am taken back to the movie "Swordfish." Interesting plot, but normal Hollywood. However, one line really sticks out.

    When they are on the bus and one guy asks John Travolta "War? Who are we at war with?!"
    Travolta's response:

    Anyone who impinges on America's freedom. Terrorist states, Stanley. Someone must bring their war to them. They bomb a church, we bomb 10. They hijack a plane, we take out an airport. They execute American tourists, we tactically nuke an entire city. Our job is to make terrorism so horrific that is becomes unthinkable to attack Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgrass101 View Post
    Let's see it's "Duck and Cover" right? and don't look at the fireball.
    You had to be there!

    It actually seemed logical when you were about 7 or 8.
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    And now the NK's want to declare war on us?

    ohh, I'm so scared.

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    to late now!

    Its to dam bad some one didn't listen to that 5 Star whats his name? 56years ago!

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