New Zimmerman photo

[DroidGeorge]

Photo released of Zimmerman bleeding from nose and mouth, supposed taken by police according to attorney.

Bob Costas says if fists were outlawed then Martin would never have hit him and would still be alive.

George

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[dbglock]

Under FL law if Zimmerman provoked Martin by confronting him, getting in his face, etc. and Martin punches him out, Zimmerman can't then shoot him and claim self-defense. I see the trial unfolding that way. There would've been no beatdown and no shooting if GZ had done what he was asked and minded his own business or left it to the police.

[Snatale42]

There would've been no beatdown and no shooting if GZ had done what he was asked and minded his own business or left it to the police.

Really? Please explain to us what happened on that day since you were obviously there. People like you are no better than the people who BLINDLY pre convicted the guy in there minds. YOU WEREN'T THERE! Last time I checked people are presumed innocent until proven guilty. The legal system cant prove otherwise at this point, so who are you to make that assumption?


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[Mike1956]

Under FL law if Zimmerman provoked Martin by confronting him, getting in his face, etc. and Martin punches him out, Zimmerman can't then shoot him and claim self-defense. I see the trial unfolding that way. There would've been no beatdown and no shooting if GZ had done what he was asked and minded his own business or left it to the police.

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This one will likely be the thread-closer.

[ZX9RCAM]

Under FL law if Zimmerman provoked Martin by confronting him, getting in his face, etc. and Martin punches him out, Zimmerman can't then shoot him and claim self-defense.

This part I believe is correct is it not???

Not saying this is what happened, or that I even THINK this happened, just saying I believe this statement is correct.

[phreddy]

I have seen no evidence that Zimmerman provoked Martin, just speculation.

The physical evidence appears to back Zimmerman's version of events.

The trial will hopefully sort it out.

[mkh]

Under FL law if Zimmerman provoked Martin by confronting him, getting in his face, etc. and Martin punches him out, Zimmerman can't then shoot him and claim self-defense. I see the trial unfolding that way. There would've been no beatdown and no shooting if GZ had done what he was asked and minded his own business or left it to the police.

This part I believe is correct is it not???

Not saying this is what happened, or that I even THINK this happened, just saying I believe this statement is correct.

If the agressor (Z in the example above) breaks off and leaves (i.e stops the agression) and then the other party (M in the example above) starts things up at a later time then he (M) is now the agressor as you have two separate incidents and a claim of stand your ground by Z could hold up.

[ZX9RCAM]

If the agressor (Z in the example above) breaks off and leaves (i.e stops the agression) and then the other party (M in the example above) starts things up at a later time then he (M) is now the agressor as you have two separate incidents and a claim of stand your ground by Z could hold up.

I agree, but that is not how the statement was posed.

[retsupt99]

This thread is going 'no where' quickly.