Why the Christmas of 1944 can change your life

Why the Christmas of 1944 can change your life

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    Why the Christmas of 1944 can change your life

    In late November 1944, Allied soldiers were charged with holding the line at a small Belgian town called Bastogne. Word flew in that Hitler was pushing hard and fast, making a last-ditch effort to swing the tide of the war back in his favor. Bastogne proved strategic due to seven crossroads that snaked through the town, roads vital in the transport of troops and ammunition

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    • There are no atheists in foxholes -- Ground truth.
    • "They'll never be able to get tanks through the Ardennes" -- Famous last words, poor assumptions about defensive barriers.
    • Surrounded; Airborne does its best fighting when surrounded -- Tenacity, dedication, giving your very best.
    • Christmas -- Even under a barrage, frostbitten and surrounded, there was hope.



    Thanks for the reminder, pgrass101. Always worth reviewing, to keep in mind some of the important things, the "little" things.
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    My Father was there. He never talked about the War, except for a few funny stories. Never more. He was in the 84th ID. Always sensitive to the cold thereafter. He came home afterwards and became part of the Greatest Generation. DOD November 7, 2003. I miss you, Dad. All of my love.
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    Here is an older post from Captain Crunch from back in 2006, regarding books/film on the subject: Book Review - WW2 Memoirs, about the film and book Band Of Brothers, and The War Memoirs Of Major Dick Winters.

    All the more poignant for having been posted by our friend, the Captain.
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    Awsome story. Thanks for sharing that!
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    it was a different theater (Pacidic), but the Bastogne story reminds me of Chesty Puller's comment:

    "We've been looking for the enemy for some time now.
    We've finally found him. We're surrounded.
    That simplifies our problem of getting to these people and killing them."
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    it was a different theater (Pacidic), but the Bastogne story reminds me of Chesty Puller's comment:

    "We've been looking for the enemy for some time now.
    We've finally found him. We're surrounded.
    That simplifies our problem of getting to these people and killing them."

    I believe that he said during the breakout from Chosin
    “You can sway a thousand men by appealing to their prejudices quicker than you can convince one man by logic.”

    ― Robert A. Heinlein,

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    I had two uncles in the Battle of the Bulge and neither would talk much about it. One was regular army, the other a paratrooper. Both survived and both had a lot of medals. My aunt showed me a cigar box with medals of one of them and the only thing I can remember was a silver star. That was in 1950. I asked him about it and he would only change the subject. Neither would talk about it. The only question my paratrooper uncle would answer that I asked was how close was the enemy. He was attached to artillery and he pointed to east, west, north, south and said they fired around the compass and it seemed like a lot of rounds were going over the enemy's heads.

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    It wasn't until a year or two before he died that my father, a Seabee in the Pacific, told me he helped built the pits used to load the atomic bombs dropped on Japan. This after years of him saying, "I just did what a million other sailors did." It changed my whole view of him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    it was a different theater (Pacidic), but the Bastogne story reminds me of Chesty Puller's comment:

    "We've been looking for the enemy for some time now.
    We've finally found him. We're surrounded.
    That simplifies our problem of getting to these people and killing them."
    This is one of my favorite quotes of all time. Applicable to many facets of life.
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    My great uncle was in Bastogne. He never talked about it, he was never the same afterwards. We were told he was "shell shocked", the term for PTSD at the time.
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    Awesome. Your timing is perfect, Pgrass. I needed to read that this morning.
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    Good story thank you! and MERRY CHRISTMAS!


    (just wish the author did not have to mention M.Fox)

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